Approaching Farmer to buy some land

[Jason293]

Hi

I am in Lincolnshire and have quite a small garden. There is about 2.5 acres of land behind me which has been left to go completely overgrown for several years. The over growth is at least 6 feet tall and I have seen rabbits and foxes on there. I know the farmer has previously applied for planning permission but this was over 10 years ago. I think there was probably some local opposition, the council website says they withdrew the application. It's disconnected from the rest of the farming land in the area by our estate and footpaths.

I would love to have some land to extend our garden and keep some livestock on such as Geese. It wouldn't matter too much if the land had to stay as agricultural land as one of my primary reasons for buying would be to preserve the view.

Would anyone on here be able to advise what the price per acre is likely to be?

How would you approach the farmer to buy the land? It is owned by a family company with a few directors.

Thanks for looking
J

 

[Badshot]

If he got planning £1000000 / acre wouldn't be out of the ordinary. So you can see what he is hoping for.

 

[Blue.]

Hi

I am in Lincolnshire and have quite a small garden. There is about 2.5 acres of land behind me which has been left to go completely overgrown for several years. The over growth is at least 6 feet tall and I have seen rabbits and foxes on there. I know the farmer has previously applied for planning permission but this was over 10 years ago. I think there was probably some local opposition, the council website says they withdrew the application. It's disconnected from the rest of the farming land in the area by our estate and footpaths.

I would love to have some land to extend our garden and keep some livestock on such as Geese. It wouldn't matter too much if the land had to stay as agricultural land as one of my primary reasons for buying would be to preserve the view.

Would anyone on here be able to advise what the price per acre is likely to be?

How would you approach the farmer to buy the land? It is owned by a family company with a few directors.

Thanks for looking
J

They have probably left the land a mess so future development would tidy it up.

Personally I'd want £50k+ for an acre on the edge of a garden.

 

[Jason293]

If he got planning £1000000 / acre wouldn't be out of the ordinary. So you can see what he is hoping for.

Thanks for the reply. He didn't get planning permission. Don't know how likely it is that he'll have some in future but what is very poor grade farmland worth? Of course there would be significant mark-up as it is right next to my house.

Would you call them or pop round to the registered premises to enquire?

 

[Badshot]

Thanks for the reply. He didn't get planning permission. Don't know how likely it is that he'll have some in future but what is very poor grade farmland worth? Of course there would be significant mark-up as it is right next to my house.

Would you call them or pop round to the registered premises to enquire?

Face to face would be best. Don't be surprised to be told where to get off though, farming is a long game and he will be prepared to wait decades for the chance of housing. There's a good few that purely by chance are now multi millionaires and will never have to worry about money again due to growing the most profitable crop, chimney pots.

 

[Landy Nick]

Be prepared to have an uplift on the land, if you do manage to buy.

 

[Matt]

be prepared to pay somewhere what it will add to your house. no good offering broad acre ag prices.

 

[roscoe erf]

Thanks for the reply. He didn't get planning permission. Don't know how likely it is that he'll have some in future but what is very poor grade farmland worth? Of course there would be significant mark-up as it is right next to my house.

Would you call them or pop round to the registered premises to enquire?

It has Hugh hope value so it won't matter how poor it is

 

[Kidds]

He didn't get planning permission.

No he didn't but nor was it refused. It will have been withdrawn by the applicant because they were going to refuse it.
Having been withdrawn it means they intend to come back later and will be easier if it has no previous refusal against it.
I don't know you, the farmer or the land but I would be surprised if you were able to buy it.

 

[Jason293]

No he didn't but nor was it refused. It will have been withdrawn by the applicant because they were going to refuse it.
Having been withdrawn it means they intend to come back later and will be easier if it has no previous refusal against it.
I don't know you, the farmer or the land but I would be surprised if you were able to buy it.

Hey, I'd be surprised too but nothing more certain than the result of not enquiring at all.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I'll not get my hopes up!

J

 

[Kidds]

Hey, I'd be surprised too but nothing more certain than the result of not enquiring at all.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I'll not get my hopes up!

J

Very true, best of luck and hope it goes well for you.
Offering to rent it might go better.

 

[honeyend]

35 years ago my brother in laws father died. My brother in law had a market garden on the land his father owned and offered to buy his siblings out, they wouldn't as they wanted to get planning out it I think it was turned down 3 times. My brother in law was so hacked off he packed the business in and let it go to brambles. So it never got planning, at least one sibling has died, the irony being the land is at the back of the house so my brother in law has an extended natural garden for 35 years, which suit him fine, its somewhere for the cats to hunt.
Where land and planning are involved people are loath to sell, I just wonder if my daughters will end up one day with his share through my sister and the problem will even worse. I have told him to fence a third off, the bit with road access and claim adverse possession to get it sorted.

 

[phil the cat]

If your only concern is the view, why not offer to rent the plot for your geese. That way they retain ownership while drawing a small income and you get to tidy it up and get some stock

 

[theboytheboy]

I would also say offer to rent.

 

[Jason293]

If your only concern is the view, why not offer to rent the plot for your geese. That way they retain ownership while drawing a small income and you get to tidy it up and get some stock

I would also say offer to rent.

I certainly would consider renting, how much do you think it will cost to rent 2.5 acres?

I wonder if there would be any room for negotiation as it will cost a lot to repair the fencing around the land and also to get rid of all the brambles. It is massively overgrown.

Thanks very much for your input

 

[phil the cat]

£200/yr, 1st year free for clean up? 5 year term?

 

[theboytheboy]

Clear and fence for them or if the have a post driver maybe you buy materials and they provide labour?
Also consider who will pay for drawing up a proper agreement.

Personally I would want more than £200 year as I find that dealing with tenants is always more hassle than I would expect.

 

[Thick Farmer]

35 years ago my brother in laws father died. My brother in law had a market garden on the land his father owned and offered to buy his siblings out, they wouldn't as they wanted to get planning out it I think it was turned down 3 times. My brother in law was so hacked off he packed the business in and let it go to brambles. So it never got planning, at least one sibling has died, the irony being the land is at the back of the house so my brother in law has an extended natural garden for 35 years, which suit him fine, its somewhere for the cats to hunt.
Where land and planning are involved people are loath to sell, I just wonder if my daughters will end up one day with his share through my sister and the problem will even worse. I have told him to fence a third off, the bit with road access and claim adverse possession to get it sorted.

I'd fence it all off. [emoji3]

 

[gta123]

Difficult one. If the land has planning on for houses then he can name his price.

 

[Hesston4860s]

4.5 acre field behind me owned by construction company came up for sale as a whole for offers in the region of £45k, they offered to sell bits off to all the houses that surround it aswell. All the neighbours where falling over themselves to buy there bit till they got the price £10k for a strip about 15m x 12m.
I told them it would be cheaper to buy the whole field and split it off between them but they didn't like that idea, it's fair to say the whole field is still for sale and probably will be for a good while.