Arable rent this Yr down or up

digger64

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Just had a look inn John nix
(these are facts)
Fixed costs £280 acre
Spring barley Margin £ 159 acre
Winter beans £186 acre
Wheat £302 acre

Total avarage margin £215 less costs net loss £65 per acre just point out that’s with out adding inn cover cropping.
Don’t think it’s going to work at any Level of rent value
is there a rough break down of fixed costs figure contents ?
 

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedford
Regarding John Nix. I take the view that as they are average figures then every one of them needs to be bettered, if possible, rather than a target to aim at.
 

Big guy

Member
Would need to be sure of getting it for a few years to justify the work/expense, the first year is going to make nothing as there will be hedges to cut, possible digger work cleaning ditches etc, then lime and other inputs, if you went to all the bother of doing this for another person to step in next year it would leave a bitter taste... big question to ask first is do you really need it? Big isn’t always better
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Is it heavy hard working land?
If it was free draining and light to medium probably
do a mixture of sheep keep /spring cropping.
That is if we still have a sheep industry next year:banghead:
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Well at least there won’t be any beef or sheep farmers bidding on it with the current prices.
Sheep price always takes a hit this time of year.
Brexit more of a problem if sheep exports get hit.
Rubbish mowing grass made£ 50-60 an acre around
here .
Think your way off unless it's under water most months
of the year or so heavy and wet you can't normally walk
on it.
 

Mc115reed

Member
I’ll bid £150 an acre, spend weeks carting muck and compost and digest from as far away as possible... plant it all in maize and cart it too the digester 30 miles away with 30 tractors and trailers on and 2 foragers....

Feed the digester it’s only way to make money
 

Brisel

Member
Location
Dorset
You not trying @Brisel up here Mr broken calculator would give £120 for that easy! I have no idea how they do it but the ones giving it never seem to stop expanding.
They are buying work, but if you really want it then you need to throw the calculator away and keep bidding! Too many just don't know their costs and just hope they can do better than the last person who made an expensive mess of the place.

If it is that riddled with weeds, has no P and K reserves and no reinvestment then I'd walk away on principle. The owner & their agent believes that there will be another mug along shortly who is prepared to bid hope money and the owner won't have to put any cash into the farm. Not a p*ssing contest I want to be involved in ever again (n)
 
Local idiots around here would tender £200...I bet . And spread rent across their owned acreage. Bonkers? But at least nobody else will get to farm it especially a keen youngster trying to break in.
Anyhow, the big bidders could always effect a break clause and dump the land after bleeding it dry.
 

digger64

Member
Well at least there won’t be any beef or sheep farmers bidding on it with the current prices.
you reckon, after the stress of last harvest re straw and forage I would like a 100 acres of grain crops to reduce my exposure to crazy prices and profiteers , don't really want to grow more than I could use though , got some rather overpriced pasture that doesn't really stack up to .
 

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94: Advice around establishing herbal leys

Written by AHDB

In this episode, Danny Fanning, a Masters student from University College Dublin spent a two month placement at AHDB looking at Herbal Leys. During this time he spoke to Ian Wilkinson of Costwolds seeds about his farming practices and how he manages his herbal lays.

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