Are Hereford x Cattle unpopular

[Hilly]

Even more so now with cake at telephone number prices .......

Yup !

 

[Tarw Coch]

I see a lot of them on FB, but they don't have a massive population globally compared to some others

I was under the impression, maybe wrongs, that they were the most popular breed world wide

 

[Hilly]

One of the best attributes of my Herefords is their docility...I have a mobile pen and a very basic crush.
If I had continentals I probably would have to go to some expense to build a proper handling system.

And their beautiful looks !

 

[Werzle]

Dislike these ungenuine forum traffic creating threads where the OP posts the clikbait and then doesnt get involved .

 

[M-J-G]

I was under the impression, maybe wrongs, that they were the most popular breed world wide

Pretty sure they are far from it.

I read somewhere there's are only something like 8 million in the world.
There are 200 million Zebu
Simmental second most common at around 40 million.

 

[Hilly]

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[M-J-G]

I can't believe Piedmontese, Limousin and Gelbvieh can't be in the top 5 globally

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@Tarw Coch it seems I was wrong with my 8 million Herefords, it's only 5

 

[Hilly]

I can't believe Piedmontese, Limousin and Gelbvieh can't be in the top 5 globally

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@Tarw Coch it seems I was wrong with my 8 million Herefords, it's only 5

Which country uses the sim the most ? As much as intend to cross a few hereford cows with angus im sorley tempted to also try a sim on some one day .

 

[som farmer]

back in the day, red hfrd x calves, were thought to be from Channel Island, Ayrshire cows, and took a severe knock, that myth is still spread by dealers, no doubt !
We like hfrd bulls on our dairy, no problems, sell well, and have a home for red hfr calves !
we sold a lot of hfrd x grazing cow, to a lad, for sucklers, see them regularly, nothing wrong with there hfd calves !
But, price of grain, will cause farmers to look again. Some foreign bred hfrd bulls, are some seriously big animals. They could probably hold their own v conts.

 

[Woolless]

Which country uses the sim the most ? As much as intend to cross a few hereford cows with angus im sorley tempted to also try a sim on some one day .

A near neighbour of mine criss-crosses Hereford and Simmental, gets on well with them.

 

[Woolless]

back in the day, red hfrd x calves, were thought to be from Channel Island, Ayrshire cows, and took a severe knock, that myth is still spread by dealers, no doubt !
We like hfrd bulls on our dairy, no problems, sell well, and have a home for red hfr calves !
we sold a lot of hfrd x grazing cow, to a lad, for sucklers, see them regularly, nothing wrong with there hfd calves !
But, price of grain, will cause farmers to look again. Some foreign bred hfrd bulls, are some seriously big animals. They could probably hold their own v conts.

A lot of modern Herefords have a fair percentage of Simmental (mainly) blood in them, as proven by a recent DNA study. That, combined with push for size/growth in US had led to them getting bigger. This seems to have had some effect on calving ease and must have some effect on ability to flesh on poorer grazing.

 

[som farmer]

A lot of modern Herefords have a fair percentage of Simmental (mainly) blood in them, as proven by a recent DNA study. That, combined with push for size/growth in US had led to them getting bigger. This seems to have had some effect on calving ease and must have some effect on ability to flesh on poorer grazing.

simply adapted, or developed to meet changing demand, quite sensible really, both AA and hfrds, are good for utilising grass, so why not develop and improve on that.

 

[Henarar]

Hi, I recently sold my 12month old Hereford x Heifers at market after having them indoors for 6 months over the winter with the associated costs of cattle nuts, hayledge and straw. Other breeds of cattle at the sale of the same age and same condition/build were fetching 50% more than my Herefords sold for. The other cattle included Simmentals and Limousines. Is this the norm and if so why are Herefords so unpopular?

Depends what the buyers want and what they will pay most for, years ago we changed from a Hereford bull to a British Blue bull and with the same cows and same system the calves averaged about 20% more at about 10 months which in a way was a shame as I liked our Herefords, they seem to sell well enough around here and defiantly not as low as half the price but they still don't seem to make what a Blue or Lim would.
I think you need to see what sells well in your area and produce them if they will fit with your system,

 

[M-J-G]

A lot of modern Herefords have a fair percentage of Simmental (mainly) blood in them, as proven by a recent DNA study. That, combined with push for size/growth in US had led to them getting bigger. This seems to have had some effect on calving ease and must have some effect on ability to flesh on poorer grazing.

I think the red holstein influence used in Canada to stretch all red breeds didn't help the fleshing ability and height overall, most of my neighbours Hereford cows are bigger than my Simmentals, but their calves don't grow well, they become massive cows but it takes them until they are over 3yo to get there.

I wish the modern Herefords had picked up on more Simmental trailts like growth and milk, but they seem to have picked up all the bad traits and very few of the good ones apart from polling.

 

[Woolless]

I think the red holstein influence used in Canada to stretch all red breeds didn't help the fleshing ability and height overall, most of my neighbours Hereford cows are bigger than my Simmentals, but their calves don't grow well, they become massive cows but it takes them until they are over 3yo to get there.

I wish the modern Herefords had picked up on more Simmental trailts like growth and milk, but they seem to have picked up all the bad traits and very few of the good ones apart from polling.

I'm glad I've gone for the traditional type. They don't pretend to be anything they're not but retain all the Hereford attributes.

 

[som farmer]

uncle asked me to find him a traditional AA bull, which l did, but knew what he would say, as l made him look, before buying, ' that wont reach our cows'. I did find a traditional hfrd, which l used, lent it to him, great, loved it, unfortunately it never came back here. Because l liked it as well, and couldn't find another.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

back in the day, red hfrd x calves, were thought to be from Channel Island, Ayrshire cows, and took a severe knock, that myth is still spread by dealers, no doubt !
We like hfrd bulls on our dairy, no problems, sell well, and have a home for red hfr calves !
we sold a lot of hfrd x grazing cow, to a lad, for sucklers, see them regularly, nothing wrong with there hfd calves !
But, price of grain, will cause farmers to look again. Some foreign bred hfrd bulls, are some seriously big animals. They could probably hold their own v conts.

We sell hfdx calves out of dairy shortorns, they sell well because they're red or even better if its a roan heifer
It's essential to have the bull on the passport or the value can be cut by more than half sometimes. Always use polled bulls as well whether ai or stock bull

 

[som farmer]

We sell hfdx calves out of dairy shortorns, they sell well because they're red or even better if its a roan heifer
It's essential to have the bull on the passport or the value can be cut by more than half sometimes. Always use polled bulls as well whether ai or stock bull

a lot depends on who you are, or by farmers having bought your calves before. The dealers always try to lower the price, but, that's their job.
and the more detail, the better.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

a lot depends on who you are, or by farmers having bought your calves before. The dealers always try to lower the price, but, that's their job.
and the more detail, the better.

Totally agree, no matter what your selling it takes time to build a reputation for having something worth buying

 

[choochter]

uncle asked me to find him a traditional AA bull, which l did, but knew what he would say, as l made him look, before buying, ' that wont reach our cows'. I did find a traditional hfrd, which l used, lent it to him, great, loved it, unfortunately it never came back here. Because l liked it as well, and couldn't find another.

speak to @Cowgirl they have some lovely traditional Herefords. in Ayrshire, Scotland