Are hunt and followers exempt from all laws?

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
"The driver and navigator, who were trapped inside had to make an emergency call to the police,” he added.

Mr Moon admitted Saboteurs trespass onto private property but only for the “greater good of animal welfare” and protest peacefully.

Members of the shooting party were attempting to kill ducks, geese and marsh harriers, he said, adding the birds are on the Amber list of UK species of conservation concern and legally protected.

Meanwhile, The Countryside Alliance, which supports all forms of legal hunting has condemned the organisation.




They can't even differentiate between a hunt and a shoot
 

kiwi pom

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canterbury NZ
The hunt themselves are as bad as the sabs. They climb aboard ‘Red Rum’ and think they are royalty riding where they want without a care of the destruction they leave behind. We banned them 20 years ago. I hope the so called ‘sport’ gets properly shut down.

Things have changed with the hunting laws but "the hunt' is generally huntsman, whips and hounds, with a terrier man and earth stoppers.
They are essentially a pest control team. The mounted field you refer to pay to be there (at least they used to) and often wouldn't have a clue where the huntsman is. They do fund the whole thing though, It may have changed now of course but a lot of huntsmen didn't really like them.
Foot packs are way better.
 
Earlier I saw upwards of 30 horses and riders riding through local village followed by at least 15 quad bikes with 2 on each not one wearing crash helmet some had number plates some had boxes carrying terriers also hounds running across fields so it's a case of the upper class can do what they like


Why post something which is so obviously incorrect.

You don't have to wear a helmet on a quad bike. If they are on their own land they can ride about as much as they like.

Why the pretense about "Upper Class" .. I know one group and they are definately NOT upper class.
 
The hunt themselves are as bad as the sabs. They climb aboard ‘Red Rum’ and think they are royalty riding where they want without a care of the destruction they leave behind. We banned them 20 years ago. I hope the so called ‘sport’ gets properly shut down.


Some hunts don't have horses .. they obvious don't ride where they like because they're banned, we've banned horses but don't mind those on foot running themselves ragged.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Terriers are used to go down runs to kill foxes which is illegal or I thought so .. I am sure I will be corrected if wrong ... isn't hunting banned and the only 'hunting' allowed is a maximum of 6 hounds following artificial scent
There is pheasant shoot nearby, perhaps some feathers have been found , more toffs again
I am not against killing foxes I would go about it in a different way without the need of the cavalry brigade

Again, why are the shoot necessarily ‘toffs’?
I don’t have a lot of time for the inconsiderate individuals that run the self keepered shoot here, or for their ‘sport’, but ‘toffs’ they most certainly are not. They are just ‘normal’ people that choose to run a small shoot for their own entertainment.
 
Terriers are used to go down runs to kill foxes which is illegal or I thought so .. I am sure I will be corrected if wrong ... isn't hunting banned and the only 'hunting' allowed is a maximum of 6 hounds following artificial scent
There is pheasant shoot nearby, perhaps some feathers have been found , more toffs again
I am not against killing foxes I would go about it in a different way without the need of the cavalry brigade


So if they weren't "Toffs" would that be okay ?

Can't see what you are on about .. if some people want to create habitats for birds to have a few days shooting I don't have a problem with it.

I DO have a problem with those breeding Herons .. they are eating all the wildlife around my ponds. I want ducks, toads, frogs and fish .. herons are useless.
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
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Fife
Again, why are the shoot necessarily ‘toffs’?
I don’t have a lot of time for the inconsiderate individuals that run the self keepered shoot here, or for their ‘sport’, but ‘toffs’ they most certainly are not. They are just ‘normal’ people that choose to run a small shoot for their own entertainment.

his new Chinese wife must have infected him with communism. IIRC @startinghandle is a millionaire landowner. To 99% of the British population that would make him a “toff”. The sense of entitlement and lack of self awareness demonstrated by many within the ag community is staggering at times.
 

Hilly

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Terriers are used to go down runs to kill foxes which is illegal or I thought so .. I am sure I will be corrected if wrong ... isn't hunting banned and the only 'hunting' allowed is a maximum of 6 hounds following artificial scent
There is pheasant shoot nearby, perhaps some feathers have been found , more toffs again
I am not against killing foxes I would go about it in a different way without the need of the cavalry brigade
Terriers don’t kill the fox and it’s perfectly legal activity .
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
The hunt themselves are as bad as the sabs. They climb aboard ‘Red Rum’ and think they are royalty riding where they want without a care of the destruction they leave behind. We banned them 20 years ago. I hope the so called ‘sport’ gets properly shut down.

That rather depends on the hunt/area of the contry ime. Back home we used to have a field of 150 out on a busy Saturday meet, many of which were London feckwits on hirelings, but lots of landed gentry too (Duke of Marlborough was renowned for being the most inconsiderate tw*t there, unless on his own ground of course😡). Now they used to do a bit of damage on occasion!
Up here, I was shocked to here a couple of local farmers complaining when the local hunt had a field of a dozen or so out. I’m more than happy to see 12-15 horses out occasionally, as long as they don’t spend all day on my little patch, and show a bit of common.:)
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
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Fife
It's only called a hunt because you can't say pansy...

I've no time for any of them.




.223 and bigger with NV/Thermal is a much more efficient pest control method

Edit; I didn't say pansy, I said pansy

.223 and thermal is a highly efficient method of killing foxes. But for targeting a specific lamb killing fox, hounds and a terrier are the best.
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
.223 and thermal is a highly efficient method of killing foxes. But for targeting a specific lamb killing fox, hounds and a terrier are the best.
Depending on circumstances. Hounds aren't much use near roads where a sit out with a rifle would be more appropriate and rifles aren't much good in woodland where you can't see very far. Terriers are no good if the earth is on your neighbours land and you aren't allowed there.
All these things are needed as pest control methods where one would work better than the other.
Apart from the ones following on horses they can f**k off.
Their hounds can come though.
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
.223 and thermal is a highly efficient method of killing foxes. But for targeting a specific lamb killing fox, hounds and a terrier are the best.

I'd rather have a man with a rifle on the farm cutting out the foxes than anyone else.

Not all issue foxes live on your farm. But if it's caught on your farm, it is fair game and it will die.
 
his new Chinese wife must have infected him with communism. IIRC @startinghandle is a millionaire landowner. To 99% of the British population that would make him a “toff”. The sense of entitlement and lack of self awareness demonstrated by many within the ag community is staggering at times.
IIRC he’s a tenant on a small holding, infact iirc he has posted on here to the effect that he was losing the tenancy so he might not even be a tennant farmer now
 

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