Are their any other zero till drills (with a similar tine as used on the Amazone Condor drill) available in the uk?

[Warnesworth]

Boccasion have a seedhawk in.

SFS!!!! Can’t believe it hasn’t been snapped up. Cracking drill.

 

[Pilatus]

If you have black grass and going tine drill do you go slower to reduce soil movement?

Does that mean we should go "American" and have much wider drills running at 7kph rather than the more "European" at least 10kph?

Regarding drilling speed in Canada ,be patient and watch the video as a question is asked "what speed do you seed at", Mike explains in detail.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Mike. I have a question

I now run 8m at 8k

 

[charlie@horizon]

I hope the “Claydon” family who have done so much good work promoting “strip till drill” will be able to develop a drill for zero till,if they do not, they will be left behind and someone else will.

Here at Claydon we now have a Low Disturbance Kit as an option for our Hybrid drills which is designed to give farmers flexibility and stop the need for having to invest in a separate 'low disturbance' drill because most want to keep their standard set up with the front tine to be able to condition the soil under the seeding zone when required (a lot of the time here in The West).

We've never sold so many drills in the UK as we have over the last 2 years, we're pretty much sold out for 2021. I have personally sold quite a few drills over the past months to farmers who have been running 'less disturbance' drills and after several years of struggles deciding to buy a Claydon Hybrid to either replace or work alongside the no till drill.

As for being left behind, you have nothing to worry about. The UK market is far from saturated, its amazing how the majority of farmers are still using 'conventional' or 'min-til' practices and for most Claydon is the most sensible route into direct drilling. We will easily sell over 100 new drills in the UK this year, I'm pretty sure no other direct drill manufacturer will be achieving those numbers in The UK. The family are currently building another new shed at the factory because to try to increase capacity, keeping up with demand is our biggest challenge!

 

[Terrier]

I have blackgrass and an 8m seedhawk on 520ha and have found 7kmhr to be perfect. If the coulter is following the ground in a steady undulating manner that is perfect, if I go much faster the movements become more pronounced and vicious which basically means I am not packing the seed because there is air between the soil and tyre.

Wear rates drop considerably at these speeds.

There is also a correlation with speed and soil movement. I aim for an unrelenting small bow wave of tilth in front of each tine, speed up and this becomes more erratic with more clod being brought up.

What size tractor do you need to use to pull your 8 metre Seedhawk ?

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

What size tractor do you need to use to pull your 8 metre Seedhawk ?

I pull an 8m dale with 240hp. Power isn't the issue. Heavy clay when it starts to get sticky and traction/weight is more important to avoid wheelslip. I reckon 180hp would be fine. Seedhawk probably needs less but the frame weight and hopper size start to have an effect

 

[alomy75]

What size tractor do you need to use to pull your 8 metre Seedhawk ?

We used to have a 6m dale with seed hawk tines. Used to live on a challenger 45 but occasionally pulled by 6930 jd which easily worked it so 155hp ish. I recall you want some decent hydraulic flow as the tines hold in under pressure and with a hydraulic fan also it does test capacity…especially when you lift up at the ends whilst drilling beans

 

[Terrier]

Seedhawk will mainly drill rape and beans. Rapid will drill cereals and peas. However depending on soil type the seedhawk will drill cereals. This will be the case on the share farm. As it’s only Had three years of DD.
my experience with DD with a rapid Is only 50 acres. 10 acres of peas and 40 acres of wild bird mix into wild bird mix. It managed fine with the laid cover and closed the slot well. It’s in the wild bird scheme to improve the soil. Poor land. Everything is rolled
Don’t do any cultivations
The plan is to remove the front frames with the cultivation discs on.
Our drill choice also depends on what straw was chopped.

How do you setup your seedhawk for drilling OSR? Both rows for seed or seed and fert? Depth ? Haven’t used one before and would be interested to know the best configuration.

 

[farmerfred86]

I beg to differ. If the disc can't seed then you can't have a solely disc drill. You are stuck with a tine drill which won't drill through large biomass covers, with or without a disc.
Look at this video I posted of the condor last year working in a mustard/phacelia cover that had to much biomass for the drill, even if you put a leading disc onto the Condor tine it still would have the same problem of 'balling' around the tine. Sensibly to drill into this sort of biomass or greater you need a disc drill.

We use a claydon that drills into covers, sometimes as large as this (to my surprise) but I actually think any disc drill would do a job. A vaderstad rapid for example?