Are their any other zero till drills (with a similar tine as used on the Amazone Condor drill) available in the uk?

[homefarm]

Technotil I is an on row packer which l think might work on your drill or you could try to copy it.

See at technotil.com

That is one headache I have not solved yet and just removed the last attempt at a following harrow before drilling this spring, which used KV TS harrow tines and did very little. By far the best slot closure had been from a separate pass with a stubble rake, across the direction of drilling.

 

[jh.]

It's nice to see youtube videos of drills working away in various conditions. It would be even nicer to see the crops they produce afterwards through establishment to meeting in the rows

That is one of the best I've seen

 

[Suddy]

That's really interesting. Mainly because lots of people already have a rapid.

How do you make this work? Just direct in? A light cultivation first? Only certain soil types? Can you close the slots ok? Through cover crops?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but you've really got my attention with this.

Presumably you don't feel the rapid can do everything, as you have another drill as well.

Thanks.

Seedhawk will mainly drill rape and beans. Rapid will drill cereals and peas. However depending on soil type the seedhawk will drill cereals. This will be the case on the share farm. As it’s only Had three years of DD.
my experience with DD with a rapid Is only 50 acres. 10 acres of peas and 40 acres of wild bird mix into wild bird mix. It managed fine with the laid cover and closed the slot well. It’s in the wild bird scheme to improve the soil. Poor land. Everything is rolled
Don’t do any cultivations
The plan is to remove the front frames with the cultivation discs on.
Our drill choice also depends on what straw was chopped.

 

[juke]

Don’t do any cultivations

does a press count as a cultivator ?

 

[ollie989898]

Can you not drill the seed via DD and then apply manure via spinning disc machines from the tramlines? I've spread pig solids on drilled OSR before. Came up fine.

 

[Farmer Roy]

You don't. The disc does the cutting that the tine can't. The compromise is hair pinning. If the disc isn't working well, tuck it up out of the way instead of swapping machines & seed over then let the tine do all the work.

two Australian built planters, Excel & Boss, just as examples, have interchangeable discs & tynes for the same parrallogram row unit . . .
just pull a pin, drop the tyne out & slide in the shank of the disc assembly
Not uncommon at all.
We like discs here for minimal soil disturbance & loss of moisture, but other times we are going down 6 or more inches “moisture seeking” to place the seed in moisture ( in a trench, still with only 1 or 2 inches of soil above it ) in which case we need a pretty strong tyne . . .

 

[Farmer Roy]

Excel Agriculture - Design & manufacture of agricultural machinery

Excel Agriculture is a market leader in the manufacture & support of agricultural machinery to the row crop, broadacre & minimum tillage farming industries

excelagr.com.au

 

[Farmer Roy]

Parallelogram Tyne Units - BOSS Agriculture

BOSS Agriculture’s parallelogram tyne units are designed to deliver a planting unit that is accurate, tough and simple to operate and maintain.

www.bossagriculture.com.au

 

[holmes65]

Parallelogram Tyne Units - BOSS Agriculture

BOSS Agriculture’s parallelogram tyne units are designed to deliver a planting unit that is accurate, tough and simple to operate and maintain.

www.bossagriculture.com.au

Any idea on price for these units?

 

[Farmer Roy]

Any idea on price for these units?

the prices are in their website in the “spares” or “Ag parts” section
There are also prices here for aftermarket parts for the JD 750 single disc units, if anyone is intrrested

BOSS Agriculture Row Units - BOSS Agriculture

www.bossagparts.com.au

 

[Farmer Roy]

About $3K per unit for a heavy duty parallelogram / tyne / presswheel

 

[CastleM]

Does anyone know the weight of a 6m dale eco drill?

 

[Brisel]

Does anyone know the weight of a 6m dale eco drill?

All the specifications are here http://www.daledrills.com/drill-range/eco-drill/

 

[CastleM]

All the specifications are here http://www.daledrills.com/drill-range/eco-drill/

Apart from the weight I'm afraid

 

[Brisel]

Apart from the weight I'm afraid

You’re right. A quick phone call ought to get you those figures. I did see them quoted but can’t remember where. Farmers Weekly probably.

 

[Suddy]

Boccasion have a seedhawk in.

 

[CastleM]

No-Till.uk

No-Till.uk is here to provide a central hub for farmers currently undertaking no tillage farming & for those interested changing their own farming model. Find out more - no-till.uk

www.no-till.uk

Found some weight information here. Incredibly light drill. Would maybe work well in wetter conditions

 

[Durt Burd]

Does anyone know the weight of a 6m dale eco drill?

This one is 4t empty

Dale Drills Eco T

While Dale Drills had a mounted machine for smaller farmers wanting to get on the direct drilling ladder and bigger trailed units for those with a lot of ground to cover or fitting in with controlled traffic it lacked a mid-sized line-up. To address this they unveiled the 3.0-6.0m trailed Eco T...

www.profi.co.uk

 

[nick...]

I think the effectiveness of leading discs will definitely depend on conditions at drilling. I had a simtech demo which was right on the limits of blocking and left lumps at the headlands. At the time I reckoned the ground was too soft for the leading discs to cut tough branching stems against so the tines could pass between them.

I would like to test an Amazone Primera in those conditions. No leading discs, but a relativerly large toothed depth wheel right behind the points. I have heard one account where the user said they just pulled any trash past the points if it started to build up. I have a very similar effect on my tine drill which has frame depth wheels in amongst the tines, deliberately positioned just behind the line of the points. When it has blocked with trash it has been around the tines without the wheels near them.

What shoes and feet do you have on those legs.not seen anything like them before
Nick...

 

[clbarclay]

What shoes and feet do you have on those legs.not seen anything like them before
Nick...

They are made by Bourgault (tillage tools) and several companies in the UK supply or fit them (Claydon, Martin Lishman, Agri-Linc). Specifically those are knife openers on speed-loc adapters and their seed boot holders with knife seed boots.