Are Travellers Gypsies?

bluebell

Member
According to the mail online, travellers invaded the historic twaites brewery and then demanded £20,000 to leave, when the management at short notice couldnt raise the full amount, they then caused damage estimated to be over £300,000 worth of damage, And they wonder why they are hated so much? I would have liked to have seen this case and many others put to the travellers documentary programme shown on tv a couple of weeks ago?
 

Paddington

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Location
Soggy Shropshire
We used to see the old style gypsies camped by the roads down in Hampshire with their horses and painted vardos. They were usually friendly and would offer a cup of tea round the camp fire if you stopped to talk to them. They travelled round doing seasonal work for farmers throughout the year staying on their land with permission. Gypsies included different types, there were the showmen who travelled the country putting up fairs for six months of the year. The gypsies who lived in houses perhaps due to age or ill health. New age travellers they put up with, some were decent people some were not. The pikies who did poor quality work and stole anything they could lay their hands on they detested, the lowest of the low, but were sadly the ones who would survive in a changing world.
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Unfortunately and I know it's wrong but I am always cautious dealing with anyone with an irish accent.
The genuine irish people who I have dealt with have been excellent. I wouldn't trust a pikey an inch though. The on3s coming round selling stuff I think mainly are just checking out the farms and pass on suitable addresses to the theiving scum.
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Unfortunately and I know it's wrong but I am always cautious dealing with anyone with an irish accent.
The genuine irish people who I have dealt with have been excellent. I wouldn't trust a pikey an inch though. The on3s coming round selling stuff I think mainly are just checking out the farms and pass on suitable addresses to the theiving scum.
And also try and come under the "legal" route ,ie walking on a footpath ,dogs on public roads verges to and around farms rabbiting and say trying to find my dog excuses etc .???
Phones,drones, etc all in their "armoury ", these days alledgedly too?
 
I'd forgotten about the New Age Travellers. We used to get convoys of old buses and bangers headed for Stonehenge in the summer, c1985.A couple of years ago, a few bus loads of hippies turned up in the fisherman's car park by the river, and I bumped into the bailiff striding down to "sort the b*******s out." Well, the travellers didn't move and next time I saw the bailiff, I asked if he had ejected them, to which he replied "Oh they aren't bad kids, I sat down with them for a smoke, some of the girls are very pleasant you know". They ended up staying all summer.
 

TheTallGuy

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
I'm probably going to get a load of agro for saying this, but....

To be fair, not all the "travellers" are bad - it seems that there's a relatively high proportion that are. You don't hear much about the decent ones because they mostly get on with life & don't cause problems, whereas we obviously are aware of what the bad ones get up to & they tend to be the ones being very vocal about being oppressed.

We tend to judge the pikeys in much the same way that England is judged by the behaviour of our football hooligans or the young folks going drinking in Magaluff, but they only represent a small proportion of our society.

For me, Gypsies are those of typically Romany descent, Travellers are the more modern breed tending to have Irish accents & Pikeys are the scum...
 

Agriimark

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Worcestershire
I'm probably going to get a load of agro for saying this, but....

To be fair, not all the "travellers" are bad - it seems that there's a relatively high proportion that are. You don't hear much about the decent ones because they mostly get on with life & don't cause problems, whereas we obviously are aware of what the bad ones get up to & they tend to be the ones being very vocal about being oppressed.

We tend to judge the pikeys in much the same way that England is judged by the behaviour of our football hooligans or the young folks going drinking in Magaluff, but they only represent a small proportion of our society.

For me, Gypsies are those of typically Romany descent, Travellers are the more modern breed tending to have Irish accents & Pikeys are the scum...
I agree with that. There is a lot of "names" people use to describe folk who live on the side of the road with a transit and caravan or horse and cart. Personally i class the caravan and transit sort as the ones who would steal my shoe laces given the chance. Always seem to be in the paper or on t.v up to no good. Whether its fly tipping. Cutting trees or scrap collection. The horse type with there carts come near us. Stay for around a week about 3-4 times a year. Do not leave a mess. Horses do a fair job off keeping the grass and hedges back and they make and sell items like log carvings or painted horse shoes etc. I would trust them more than a lot of people with jobs who live in houses [emoji849]
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
We used to see the old style gypsies camped by the roads down in Hampshire with their horses and painted vardos. They were usually friendly and would offer a cup of tea round the camp fire if you stopped to talk to them. They travelled round doing seasonal work for farmers throughout the year staying on their land with permission. Gypsies included different types, there were the showmen who travelled the country putting up fairs for six months of the year. The gypsies who lived in houses perhaps due to age or ill health. New age travellers they put up with, some were decent people some were not. The pikies who did poor quality work and stole anything they could lay their hands on they detested, the lowest of the low, but were sadly the ones who would survive in a changing world.

We used to have a Romany family with the caravan and horses camp for about six weeks every year on the side of a back road near a farm where I worked in the early 80's. The one thing I always remember is every-time they left the only way you could tell they had ever been there was the grass had all been flattened off.
 

Hooby Farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
roe valley
I used to go with a gypsy girl. Her grandfather and father were both captains in the army. Decent hard working people. They identified as Romany gypsies, but did not have a good word to say on the Irish/English ones. All the family had good jobs, accountants and engineers like that. Apart from a brother who was described as the rogue of the family (theiving heur) he was a scrapman and lived in a caravan, the only one for 2 generations to do so. I even name my dog Gypsy after her :ROFLMAO:
 
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