Are we missing a trick here?

yellowbelly

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N.Lincs
With the clipping season in full swing, I came across this, in a post on another thread, that was flagged up by @Vader ..

The date on it is 2019.
I've no idea how much of it is true, but if it is, why aren't the Wool Board shouting it from the rooftops :scratchhead:
 
With the clipping season in full swing, I came across this, in a post on another thread, that was flagged up by @Vader ..

The date on it is 2019.
I've no idea how much of it is true, but if it is, why aren't the Wool Board shouting it from the rooftops :scratchhead:
Because the wool board have easier ways to make a living
 

Vader

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With the clipping season in full swing, I came across this, in a post on another thread, that was flagged up by @Vader ..

The date on it is 2019.
I've no idea how much of it is true, but if it is, why aren't the Wool Board shouting it from the rooftops :scratchhead:
Probably in the princess nut nuts pee pot circle...
 

Al R

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West Wales
A friend sends organic wool to the board he phoned to say he’d been paid just under £1/kg for the organic wool in the last few days, so it seems the market has increased on certain segments 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Nithsdale Farmer

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I post this one regularly

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neilo

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Montgomeryshire
If you are sending that carbon off the farm as wool, would that count against all our aims to be carbon neutral? Everyone is on board with that aim aren't they? :censored:
 

Nithsdale Farmer

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If you are sending that carbon off the farm as wool, would that count against all our aims to be carbon neutral? Everyone is on board with that aim aren't they? :censored:

Not sure how you figure that? It's captured on farm. Once it leaves (to be processed and used!) it's already stored...

If you want to pick holes in carbon capturing and wool then the tree boys are totally f**ked 🤣🤣 (and we all know it's a fallacy anyway)
 

JD-Kid

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Not sure how you figure that? It's captured on farm. Once it leaves (to be processed and used!) it's already stored...

If you want to pick holes in carbon capturing and wool then the tree boys are totally f**ked 🤣🤣 (and we all know it's a fallacy anyway)
ummm good point trees here it's the carbon on the land once a tree goes out the gate got to pay the carbon back ....ummm hang on a second what if yer milled the tree on farm see were im heading build houses on farm and the carbon never leaves same with the wool carpets .
be like wolf creek sock Co the carbon never leaves the farm
 

Sheep

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Northern Ireland
If you are sending that carbon off the farm as wool, would that count against all our aims to be carbon neutral? Everyone is on board with that aim aren't they? :censored:

Not necessarily - it would be no different to selling a kg of meat, manure, grain or whatever.


+ Land grows grass, sequesters carbon.
- Sheep eats grass, removes some carbon (from grass organic matter)
- Sheep emits methane from rumination etc
+- Very efficiently converts carbon to meat & wool
+ Returns some manure (organic matter/carbon) to the soil
+ Other benefits such as weed control, reducing need for herbicides etc.

Overall a sheep should end up producing a very efficient food and clothing/insulation source (meat & wool). Quite rightly it is something that should be shouted from the rooftops as @yellowbelly says.

However I suspect the reason no-one is yet shouting is that nobody is exactly agreeing on the calculations behind livestock carbon (i.e. the ridiculous headlines that livestock farming is terrible, even though the figures behind the headlines are complete bs).
 

yellowbelly

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N.Lincs
However I suspect the reason no-one is yet shouting is that nobody is exactly agreeing on the calculations behind livestock carbon (i.e. the ridiculous headlines that livestock farming is terrible, even though the figures behind the headlines are complete bs).
That's very true.
Whilst I think the graphic that @Nithsdale Farmer has posted is great, and I would love it to be true, when you read the bit in the middle it says, "1kg of clean wool equates to 1.8kg of CO2-E stored in a durable, wearable form."

Now I only did O level maths but if 1kg of wool is storing 1.8kg of carbon dioxide why doesn't it weigh 1.8kg :scratchhead:

Maybe the O2 bit floats off and just leaves the carbon :scratchhead:

Whatever, it's a great graphic and wants posting far and wide even if it only tells part of the story.

It shouldn't bother us - the other side post loads of exagerated, untrue crap. It's good to have something that shows us as the good guys for a change.
 

Sheep

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Northern Ireland
That's very true.
Whilst I think the graphic that @Nithsdale Farmer has posted is great, and I would love it to be true, when you read the bit in the middle it says, "1kg of clean wool equates to 1.8kg of CO2-E stored in a durable, wearable form."

Now I only did O level maths but if 1kg of wool is storing 1.8kg of carbon dioxide why doesn't it weigh 1.8kg :scratchhead:

Maybe the O2 bit floats off and just leaves the carbon :scratchhead:

Whatever, it's a great graphic and wants posting far and wide even if it only tells part of the story.

It shouldn't bother us - the other side post loads of exagerated, untrue crap. It's good to have something that shows us as the good guys for a change.

Its the CO2e (or eq) is the bit that catches people out.

The e or eq stands for equivalent. So when someone says "x releases 1 ton of carbon", what they are saying is "x releases 1 ton of carbon equivalents".

The three elements that make up a carbon equivalent are: carbon dioxide (C02), Methane (CH4), and Nitrous oxide (N20).

1 ton of carbon dioxide = 1 ton CO2e
1 ton of Methane = 25t CO2e (x25 of C02)
1 ton of Nitrous Oxide = 298t CO2e (x298 of C02)


So for your wool example, 1kg of clean wool equates to 1.8kg of CO2e, that'll mean that 1kg of wool is made up of 800g carbon, 150g methane and 50g of nitrous oxide (for example, not accurate figures). Which then gives the figure of 1.8kg CO2e.

Simple really isnt it :ROFLMAO::scratchhead:



Essentially its just a way of saying 'Hey, its not just carbon dioxide being sequestered or emitted, but we also have these other compounds - Nitrous Oxide and Methane, lets standardise them and call them carbon equivalents.'
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
Not sure how you figure that? It's captured on farm. Once it leaves (to be processed and used!) it's already stored...

If you want to pick holes in carbon capturing and wool then the tree boys are totally f**ked 🤣🤣 (and we all know it's a fallacy anyway)

I did hear that there are plans to take those trees, once they have grown and been felled, cart them offshore, then bury them below the sea bed so that their carbon is locked away forever.

A bunch of pee’d up students trying to write a project up before the next morning’s deadline would struggle to come with a dafter idea. :banghead:
 

Nithsdale Farmer

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Livestock Farmer
I did hear that there are plans to take those trees, once they have grown and been felled, cart them offshore, then bury them below the sea bed so that their carbon is locked away forever.

A bunch of pee’d up students trying to write a project up before the next morning’s deadline would struggle to come with a dafter idea. :banghead:

No doubt suggesting to HM Govt. to dump the trees into Beaufort's Dyke for 2 reasons

1) To seal it off and stop the (LIVE!!) Munitions
which are dumped there from constantly washing up on the beaches of Dumfries & Galloway

2) So Boris can then have his fantasy drive to Ireland - by safely traveling over Beaufort's Dyke AND all the depleted Uranium 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
What carbon hoof print ?



Why ?
There is a market for it. That simple really.

Would be better if we addressed it in a lot of other ways.

Bull they appear to want to reduce methane emissions by 30%

To do this they want 30% less farm animals.

But I’ll beat the f*ckers won’t I ..... if I can produce animals that produce 30% less methane!

They can’t take away the sheep then! 😂
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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