Are you or your employees "working class"

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Years ago you were in service, cooking ,cleaning, gardening and paid for such as a working class servant

Now you do the same but your an entrepreneur with your own business and not working class.
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
A lot of Entrepreneurs are thick as sh!t..They'll pay someone else to do the work.

You don't have to look far and fair play to them.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Such a bizarre announcement. As if being more working class (whatever that is nowadays) will somehow make the company more effective or competitive. Anyway, how is is defined? Its as much cultural as practical these days.

"my great grandfather worked in a pit" You're in!
Its probably defined as 'less Old Etonians'.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
This sort of affirmative action has been about for at least 20 yrs. My sister was privately educated her whole life, but went to a state 6th form as universities looked more favourably upon applications from state education.
 
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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
It’s quite a useful thing to look like the “farm worker” which I do.
When a motor rolls up and a bloke with a clipboard gets out and asks to see the boss I can quite convincingly say I’ve no idea where he’s gone mate. I only work here.
I particularly like the address “ you there! “ as in “you there, hitch my horse box up”. Followed by “who owns this place then?” To which I can reply “well me actually, and if you don’t mind your manners you won’t be coming back here.” Just because I’m lathered in oil and dust doesn’t mean I’m not worthy of some respect.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I think as small farmers we are the last of the labouring middle class.
I remember my grandfather was once out in the yard shearing sheep when a rep called. The rep said to him that he wished he was the owner of a place this size. My grandfather took his tie off which he always wore, put it on the rep, gave him the hand shears and told him to carry on shearing the sheep, then he asked him “how does it feel to be the boss?”
 
I've posted this before on this subject . A neighbour , now dec.d was asked by a chap with a clipboard this very question , "Do you consider yourself working , or middle class . Well , said he , when I'm up to my elbows emptying a rather sticky septic tank , I'm definitely working class . But when I get home , clean -up and then sit down to a nicely cooked sirloin steak from a home fed beast , with all the trimmings , then I'm without doubt middle class !
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I don't think it's your job or what you do every day that defines your class, its also your general outlook on life.

Myself and all my friends are what I class as working class. I'm not friends with any educated/professional types. None of my friends went to university. Joiners, builders, mechanics. Successful in what they do but still graft.

Most of the people I went to school with that went onto higher education and professional jobs are strokers in my opinion. I'm sure they think the same about me. Look down there nose at you can fudge off.
 

Dead Rabbits

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Location
'Merica
Am I right in thinking the preoccupation with class is more of a British thing? I could just be ignorant but I never hear much about it in the US. It does exist but maybe not really paid much mind to.

Another observation. In the us your accent seems to denote your local origins. Where as in the UK it seems to denote class, for the most part. Almost like some school last beat your accent out of you and replace it with a “posh” one.
 

Dead Rabbits

Member
Location
'Merica
It’s quite a useful thing to look like the “farm worker” which I do.
When a motor rolls up and a bloke with a clipboard gets out and asks to see the boss I can quite convincingly say I’ve no idea where he’s gone mate. I only work here.
I particularly like the address “ you there! “ as in “you there, hitch my horse box up”. Followed by “who owns this place then?” To which I can reply “well me actually, and if you don’t mind your manners you won’t be coming back here.” Just because I’m lathered in oil and dust doesn’t mean I’m not worthy of some respect.
Id be the last person on the place anyone would pick as the manager. Not that we get many visitors
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
I've mixed with all sorts. Can hold my own as I'm not thick. I worked for a cowboy outfit for years then set up on my own in their time.Then left them high and dry and went on my own proper.

Like Chae my mates are Builders Joiners Groundworkers. Not particularly bright but sh!t hot at what they do.

I've had meetings at home with suppliers where my missus has played f**k with me.

I had a rep out in the early days where I said ""I'll have to make an effort" and lopped the legs off a pair of joggers into shorts.

Went swimmingly... He's moved on and now buys stuff off me.
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Farmings a curious occupation that doesn’t really fit into any of the “class” categories in my opinion.

Which is a good thing, one less thing to give a toss about.

Went to a wedding held at Cambridge university once, lot of plummy accents and large words, but the standard of common sense on show was unbelievably low.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Farmings a curious occupation that doesn’t really fit into any of the “class” categories in my opinion.

Which is a good thing, one less thing to give a toss about.

Went to a wedding held at Cambridge university once, lot of plummy accents and large words, but the standard of common sense on show was unbelievably low.
You big Angus farmers are all posh!
 
Farmings a curious occupation that doesn’t really fit into any of the “class” categories in my opinion.

A widely used (although over 30 years old now) was able to farmers to a certain classification -
 

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