Argentine Farmers protest

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Export taxes and partial, even total export bans are something we will see more and more of during the next year. People in the exporting countries cannot afford to buy their own country’s produce, therefore the discouraging of exports in an attempt to keep their own voter’s fed affordably. No cheap food coming to the UK any time soon even though that is what the UK Government were banking on when developing their zero emissions and greening policies. In effect they are trying to export our emissions by substituting UK production with imported food which they assumed would be cheap and in abundance.
 

Flatlander

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lorette Manitoba
Seems to be that selling off or out the national industries has been going on for decades,farmer have been too resilient in hanging on, net zero bull sh1t us just another stick to beat the industry down a little bit more. Protesting is about the only way farmers can get heard,but unfortunately get a bad rap when they do. Wasn’t long ago our industry was getting praised for keeping supermarket shelves stocked with food during a pandemic that had everyone claiming furlough and afraid to sneeze. Now when they have to pay a decent price it’s wrong. intresting how the ones bitching about not being able to afford food and stood there in fancy cloths and holding the latest phones that cost more than a months groceries for a family of four. Lack of priority in their lives I say
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
it needs a re-alignment of priorities by the population. The lesson will be, to teach them, that they can live without mobile phones, sunny holidays etc, but they cannot live, without food.
This will cause outrage, and as per usual, it will be the farmers fault.
What effect, will food inflation have ? Every £1 more, spent on food, means £1 less spent on the modern 'priorities' of life. Massive industries have grown up, to take advantage of the 'cheap' food, targeting the money, cheap food has left available. What effect will food inflation, have on those industries ? More importantly, most of those industries, provide a nice tax stream, for the guv.
Also certain the guv, hasn't got a clue, about the real impacts of food inflation. It is the only thing, that people cannot do without. They have no option other than to spend the increased costs. After years of to cheap food prices, the consumer has one heck of a shock, on its way, about time to.
 
UK Government were banking on when developing their zero emissions and greening policies. In effect they are trying to export our emissions by substituting UK production with imported food which they assumed would be cheap and in abundance.


The stench of hypocrasy coming from the Civil Service in London .. I'm surprised the place isn't perminantly covered in a fog of ammonia.
 

VIP

Member
Trade
it needs a re-alignment of priorities by the population. The lesson will be, to teach them, that they can live without mobile phones, sunny holidays etc, but they cannot live, without food.
This will cause outrage, and as per usual, it will be the farmers fault.
What effect, will food inflation have ? Every £1 more, spent on food, means £1 less spent on the modern 'priorities' of life. Massive industries have grown up, to take advantage of the 'cheap' food, targeting the money, cheap food has left available. What effect will food inflation, have on those industries ? More importantly, most of those industries, provide a nice tax stream, for the guv.
Also certain the guv, hasn't got a clue, about the real impacts of food inflation. It is the only thing, that people cannot do without. They have no option other than to spend the increased costs. After years of to cheap food prices, the consumer has one heck of a shock, on its way, about time to.
We are so far off this it’s laughable….in this country. I see early 20’s kids driving 70k cars, days shooting going for 20k per pop, you can’t buy a Rolex in a shop….2 year waiting list, if you pass their loyalty schemes. There is a Ferrari dealership in my local town🤦‍♂️
 
Export taxes and partial, even total export bans are something we will see more and more of during the next year. People in the exporting countries cannot afford to buy their own country’s produce, therefore the discouraging of exports in an attempt to keep their own voter’s fed affordably. No cheap food coming to the UK any time soon even though that is what the UK Government were banking on when developing their zero emissions and greening policies. In effect they are trying to export our emissions by substituting UK production with imported food which they assumed would be cheap and in abundance.
Bit like burning wood in Drax, am I right in thinking, we don't count deforestation against the UK, when they are cut down for Drax, only take the credit for producing electricity without fossil fuels.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
We are so far off this it’s laughable….in this country. I see early 20’s kids driving 70k cars, days shooting going for 20k per pop, you can’t buy a Rolex in a shop….2 year waiting list, if you pass their loyalty schemes. There is a Ferrari dealership in my local town🤦‍♂️
all about to change, for the average consumer, the richer end of society, will not change anything, they have enough money. That point, will never change, and has been the same for all time.
There will be winners, less air travel, as people have to start cutting back on holidays, perhaps a change to more home cooking, a massive reduction, in food waste, less throw away products, the list is endless, but the really big winners, could be farmers, lets hope so.
 
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snipe

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Location
west yorkshire
Seems to be that selling off or out the national industries has been going on for decades,farmer have been too resilient in hanging on, net zero bull sh1t us just another stick to beat the industry down a little bit more. Protesting is about the only way farmers can get heard,but unfortunately get a bad rap when they do. Wasn’t long ago our industry was getting praised for keeping supermarket shelves stocked with food during a pandemic that had everyone claiming furlough and afraid to sneeze. Now when they have to pay a decent price it’s wrong. intresting how the ones bitching about not being able to afford food and stood there in fancy cloths and holding the latest phones that cost more than a months groceries for a family of four. Lack of priority in their lives I say
Are your talking from a Canadian or Uk farmers point of view. I always thought that the Canadian and Us farmers were well supported and understood by their governments.( Asking out of genuine interest, not trying to make a point). Agriculture in North America must be one Of the biggest industry’s .
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
We are so far off this it’s laughable….in this country. I see early 20’s kids driving 70k cars, days shooting going for 20k per pop, you can’t buy a Rolex in a shop….2 year waiting list, if you pass their loyalty schemes. There is a Ferrari dealership in my local town🤦‍♂️
You can bet those kids driving ferrarri cars will have been left property by daddy and are collecting vast sums in rent every month.
 

BredRedHfd

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BASIS
Location
NE Derbyshire
Are your talking from a Canadian or Uk farmers point of view. I always thought that the Canadian and Us farmers were well supported and understood by their governments.( Asking out of genuine interest, not trying to make a point). Agriculture in North America must be one Of the biggest industry’s .
Far from it 🤬
 
Far from it 🤬
I think he should look at other Canadian industries, disgusting the way the sand oil industry is treating the environment

 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I think he should look at other Canadian industries, disgusting the way the sand oil industry is treating the environment

big business dictates guv policy, faceless men, immensely wealthy, pull the strings of guvs, all around the world. They have done so, for centuries.
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Far from it 🤬
Trudeau has lost the plot on many aspects of running Canada. Apart from probably bogus dreamt-up claims about their own emissions from agricultural food production, he has imposed the most draconian restrictions on a population anywhere outside communist authoritarian totalitarian China.
I doubt very much whether he will retain his position after the next elections. Maybe their Greens will gain power and stop food production altogether? Which would be one less competitor for UK farmers and maybe even an export potential. :p

Hold on a bit though, I forgot that the UK is heading the same way. Wanting food but not willing for UK farmers to be able to compete while growing it. :banghead: It looks like prices are likely to remain high as farmers in so many places are restricted from being financially viable through growing food conventionally. The resulting longer term shortages mean that food is likely to remain at a high price relative to household incomes but possibly still not provide a sustainable management and investment income for farmers.
 
all about to change, for the average consumer, the richer end of society, will not change anything, they have enough money. That point, will never change, and has been the same for all time.
There will be winners, less air travel, as people have to start cutting back on holidays, perhaps a change to more home cooking, a massive reduction, in food waste, less throw away products, the list is endless, but the really big winners, could be farmers, lets hope so.

All of which is why rich people need to be taxed.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Trudeau has lost the plot on many aspects of running Canada. Apart from probably bogus dreamt-up claims about their own emissions from agricultural food production, he has imposed the most draconian restrictions on a population anywhere outside communist authoritarian totalitarian China.
I doubt very much whether he will retain his position after the next elections. Maybe their Greens will gain power and stop food production altogether? Which would be one less competitor for UK farmers and maybe even an export potential. :p

Hold on a bit though, I forgot that the UK is heading the same way. Wanting food but not willing for UK farmers to be able to compete while growing it. :banghead: It looks like prices are likely to remain high as farmers in so many places are restricted from being financially viable through growing food conventionally. The resulting longer term shortages mean that food is likely to remain at a high price relative to household incomes but possibly still not provide a sustainable management and investment income for farmers.
We're definitely pointed in that direction down here. Our gov't even shut down our remaining refinery, banned new exploration, as well as the draconian BS that these puppets see as "the way forward"

it's really all about impoverishment of the broader population and getting income streams going into fewer and fewer hands, and it's perhaps naive of us to think "they can't see this coming"?

Maybe it's what they want?

Last time I saw a move that genuinely helped "us", I was still a schoolboy
 

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HSENI names new farm safety champions

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

Two of these champions are Malcom Downey, retired principal inspector for the Agri/Food team in HSENI and Harry Sinclair, current chair of the Farm Safety Partnership and former president of the Ulster Farmers’ Union (UFU).

Improving farm safety is the key aim of HSENI’s and the FSP’s work and...
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