betweenthelines
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The point was that it's not just Arla who have a wide spread of products. Muller do a huge range of milk based products -everything from liquid milk to ethanol, is what they claim
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Sorry i thought this was a forum for discussion?
And this is a thread about Arla isn't it?
dinderleat
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I think the main point in all of this is any decision Arla management make only has to be justified to arla’s owners and not to the rest of the industry.
A few years ago when the ml first merger was on the cards there was a break out session out the Nfu conference about this merger and no end of people were discussing why this should go ahead. It did perplex me that all of the people discussing the merger were in fact suppliers of other company’s.
A few years ago when the ml first merger was on the cards there was a break out session out the Nfu conference about this merger and no end of people were discussing why this should go ahead. It did perplex me that all of the people discussing the merger were in fact suppliers of other company’s.
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Plenty of forum members comment on issues and plans of others businesses.
Questions on organic, which variety of wheat to grow, which tractor to buy or what spread of risk of cropping. Everyone has the right to voice their own opinion thats how a forum works.
I was commenting on historic decsions. I didn't say they were right or wrong just saying there are always different paths to go down.
jade35
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dinderleat
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I agree with you that everyone has a right to their own opinion.
But perhaps I didn’t go into enough details that meeting at the nfu conference they (non members of ml or first milk) were disscuing/wanted wether the nfu should be involved in making sure this merger went through.
I suppose there is a fine line when opinion goes further especially if the person has a vested interest in other companies which compete against those businesses.
Alfred
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What a very odd argument to make @dinderleat the nfu is there to represent its members, many of which will have been ml and fm members also, those two companies merging would have had a massive effect on the uk dairy industry as a whole if it went ahead, should that not have been discussed at national level?
Of course it should!
On the basis of your argument the nfu dairy board should be banned from meeting retailers or processors and discussing the interests of its members.
I would like to think that the nfu board representatives don't just look after their own vested interests in their companies they supply when in discussions. Because a large majority are Arla members, the most prominent being the chairman !!
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SW dairy board chair was a DCD rep
There are Arla reps.
Infact a whole mix of companies are represented.
Must be difficult for the NFU dairy chairman to be critical of his company? But having saidthat constructive criticism should always be taken on board.
Alfred
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On the basis of your comment above as a Arla member are you suggesting that Arla management should have no influence on the rest of the industry outside of Arla members interests? And should not be held accountable by the rest of us non Arla members??
Maybe as a member you should then suggest that Tomas pietrangeli is removed from his position of vice chairman of dairy UK.
At the same time you should also ask if Arthur Fearnall is a good farmers representative on the board of dairy UK.
Incase you are unaware both of the above are Arla management, and they sit with representatives from most of the major processors in the UK and openly discus with others promoting and representing the best interests of the industry !
That makes them accountable to the rest of us!
dinderleat
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I was using that nfu conference as an example it was over 10 years ago so I hope things have changed of which I think they have. It wasn’t a dig at the nfu as on the whole they do a great job for the industry.
Arla is bound to have an influence on the rest of the industry, since that it processes the amount of milk it does . What I can’t understand is how you think Arla management should be held accountable by non members of Arla for actions which will improve members position.
The positions that Tomas and Arthur are in, are to promote generic advertising of dairy farmers products and as you say work together with other industry leaders to discus the best way forward. Of which Arthur and Tomas do this well representing Arla members on the dairy uk board. But as you say they also represent all dairy farmers on that board so decisions they make on that board they should be held accountable but only in those rolls and not any other they hold.
In any position of a representative you should be there to represent your members and not for your own self importance. Which in all boards there are a few.
Behind The Times
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Just out of interest did the vote go in favour of ukaf members joining amba directly
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Yes 98% in favour
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Skyr is a type of "yoghurt " (actually a cheese)
Like chedder, is a cheese not a brand
It is becoming apparent that financial observers are beginning to comment on the ineffiency of Arla within the U.K. Operation Calcium is going against the trend with two other cheese producers investing heavily. I think this is highlighting the urgent need for non executive directors to be appointed the main board. Otherwise we are left to believe what management want us to believe when in reality there are no checks and balances to drive the business harder.
I notice that an old friend popped her head up in the latest Arla press release.
-Hanne Søndergaard, Executive Vice President and CMO at Arla Foods-
There are a lot of career employees within Arla Management that are doing very well for themselves. I just wonder how many farmer board members have any real idea how the business is performing.
I notice that an old friend popped her head up in the latest Arla press release.
-Hanne Søndergaard, Executive Vice President and CMO at Arla Foods-
There are a lot of career employees within Arla Management that are doing very well for themselves. I just wonder how many farmer board members have any real idea how the business is performing.
Alfred
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I also read what Messrs potter wrote about Arla and I do wonder if he has a short memory as it was only a few months ago that Arla announced an investment program of £72 million in the uk alone
As for Hanna Søndergaard I was for along time of the same impression you come across as having about her when she was in charge of the uk as it always felt like a dictation from her of what our milk price would be for us AFMP farmers. She certainly did not bother what we thought of her at the time as it was her job to secure the cheapest milk she could for the business, now that we are owners I am glad that we have that type of person working for us rather than against us.
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