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DairyGrazing

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North West
Where are the big Arla milk fields. Where we are in Cheshire is mainly muller. Every time you go out of the drive you pass a muller tanker. Ive never seen an arla tanker locally till last night when one went past me in Chester. There are a few arla farms around nothing like the number of muller ones.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Where are the big Arla milk fields. Where we are in Cheshire is mainly muller. Every time you go out of the drive you pass a muller tanker. Ive never seen an arla tanker locally till last night when one went past me in Chester. There are a few arla farms around nothing like the number of muller ones.
The South west. Ex milk link members.
 

Chips

Member
Location
Shropshire
Where are the big Arla milk fields. Where we are in Cheshire is mainly muller. Every time you go out of the drive you pass a muller tanker. Ive never seen an arla tanker locally till last night when one went past me in Chester. There are a few arla farms around nothing like the number of muller ones.

Too much Arla milk collected in generic tankers around our area even though quite a condensed arla milk field , all change for me though in a couple of weeks when Arla take over my milk from a milk swap , will be one less thing for me to bang on about at meetings
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
My milk is organic , so still the conventional milk will be collected in generic tankers , so I will still keep bringing this up as I believe any savings in transport from milk swaps is lost via the lost advertising opportunity of having the farmer owned message going up and down our roads on 30ft billboards 7 days a week .
I agree but it does depend on cost. 0.1ppl saving on transport is not to be dismissed on a double shifted lorryrunning 365. But i do get the advertising side as well especially down here with all the holiday traffic!

The milk swap you mentioned is that conventional or organic?
 

stablegirl

Member
Location
North
We are an Arla farm collected by Barghs, they used to have Arla branding but as far as im aware got sick of Arla changing their mind and messing them about so now they are SJ Bargh liveried.

Agreed its a shame, especially when they are kept immaculate its a good advert. I hating seeing dirty milk tankers it sends out all the wrong messages.
 

stablegirl

Member
Location
North
I've been thinking..... yesterday's election outcome could be good for us, especially Arla producers.

The uncertainty will keep the pound weak helping all of us.

The lack of a majority will make compromise more nessecery resulting in a softer Brexit which will include the free movement of people which is grand because dairy staff are hard enough to come by. And we will remain in the single market which will be a huge boost for Arla.

I know it's all rather complex and to be honest yesterday was a bit embarrassing all round but for us there May (excuse pun) be a silver lining!
 
Not going to happen...... Most have agreed that free movement of people can't continue (although i have nothing agains't those that wish to come and work and make a positive contribution) the recent attacks will only make those feelings stronger.. That means no single market. Tariff free trade has got to be the best outcome.

As for the weak pound yes that is helping dairy uk no end although us in Arla have yet to see much benefit yet.... but hopefully it will come. We are already being able to squeeze and displace all that cheap Irish cheddar they keep trying to flog as English. I know they talk about exports but we are a million miles away from being anywhere near self sufficient in dairy so lets get the facilities in place over time to produce more of what we need right here.
 

Chips

Member
Location
Shropshire
The trouble short term in Arla will be the crashing pound will not help the UKAF milk price straight away but it will effect our feed price straight away making it difficult for Arla farmers to respond to market demand , and then our main competitors can bank the currency bonaza while maintaining a competitive milk price to us . The other trouble of course is AMBA's price will be hit by the weak pound and as we are roughly 25% of AMBA the benefit from weak currency will be watered down by 25% , still 75% benefit it time though .
Personally I'm starting to think no Brexit will be better than the Brexit we will get now given that we are going to be so weak negotiating , maybe time to go back to the EU with our hands in the air , apologies for trying to escape and do our ten years or so in solitary , if we keep running it may be the firing squad !
 
The trouble short term in Arla will be the crashing pound will not help the UKAF milk price straight away but it will effect our feed price straight away making it difficult for Arla farmers to respond to market demand , and then our main competitors can bank the currency bonaza while maintaining a competitive milk price to us . The other trouble of course is AMBA's price will be hit by the weak pound and as we are roughly 25% of AMBA the benefit from weak currency will be watered down by 25% , still 75% benefit it time though .
Personally I'm starting to think no Brexit will be better than the Brexit we will get now given that we are going to be so weak negotiating , maybe time to go back to the EU with our hands in the air , apologies for trying to escape and do our ten years or so in solitary , if we keep running it may be the firing squad !


:stop::stop::stop::stop::stop:. There are far more worrying things happening to this country than the milk price.
My other half is on the school govoners and half of year 5 that had a trip to London have pulled out as parents are too scared of what is happening. How sad is that.
 

Chips

Member
Location
Shropshire
:stop::stop::stop::stop::stop:. There are far more worrying things happening to this country than the milk price.
My other half is on the school govoners and half of year 5 that had a trip to London have pulled out as parents are too scared of what is happening. How sad is that.

Sorry ,wasn't trying to make any connection to what's been going on in the UK, Just simply that a weak currency doesn't always help as much as you might think, when you're a member of Arla it works both ways . And that if the benifits of leaving the EU were marginal before, I worry now of just what deal we will get as I don't think the government will have the courage anymore to go for no deal which they always said would be better than a bad deal and so we as farmers with a weak voice could well be the sacrificial lamb to protect the city and public sectors. One very good point about Arla which I doubt anyone could knock is the hard work they are doing in trying to get the farmers interests across to government in regards to brexit .

Off topic and with regard to what you said about the trip to London , this is indeed very sad but very understandable as that is exactly how I would feel being a parent myself . As a young child my mother, sister and myself were due to meet my Father in the wimpy in London at the very time the bomb went off killing Keneth Howarth , the bomb disposal policeman , the reason it only killed that brave sole was due to an IRA warning evacuating the building , the terrorist today are on a whole new level to those days . The cause of so many of today's troubles though are all caused by one thing which won't change whether we do or don't leave the EU , that one thing being the internet . I fail to see why we except anything coming into our homes via the internet that we simply would not via any other medium . Censorship is there to protect us all , if we simple censored that and recorded the DNA of every living sole in the country so much of our troubles would disappear overnight .
Reality is as well , however much it doesn't feel like it you're far far more likely to get killed on the bus travelling to London however much that doesn't make it right .
But yes I very much take your point , it's very sad and puts milk price into perspective
 
Its a funny feeling in the country if you ask me it feels as if the country is changing leaving the eu is just part of it the way ALL people behaved after the recent terror attacks is another and now this weeks election.
we need brexit we need to find ourselves again :)
 
Didn't mean to bite @Chips I think I've been watching too many Tommy Robinson clips on Facebook on the state of our country the last few weeks.
I think it's good Arla are getting involved and hope they can smooth influence and talk some common sense on both sides of the water towards tariff free trade as long as they realise that some of there farmers don't want this at any cost.

On the milk price i think we need to be more glass half full going forward, i think things are look much more favourable ....... beef trade is flying too and it all helps.
 

Chips

Member
Location
Shropshire
The milk swap you mentioned is that conventional or organic?

It's my milk so organic ,first collection today in Arla branded truck
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Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I can't see the Farmer owned logo on your truck anywhere :scratchhead:

Our truck's next load probably won't be organic
I'm still intrigued as to this organic milk swap you mentioned a while back. This is the one you have just come out of and now haul your own milk?
 

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