Atlantis final fling

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by shakerator, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    Nice surprise this pm
    a few fields where still worth using at least, although wont be 100%. I was worried about this one and sprayed at 500L/ha misting along at snails pace!

    this field has had 4 spring crops on the bounce and no winter wheat since 2009!
     

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  2. static

    static Member

    Location:
    Lincoln-ish.
    8 years without wheat, I'd hope the Atlantis would do something!
     
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  3. Do you remember that evidence I sent you about reduced Atlantis efficacy with increasing water rates?!
     
  4. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    Oops
     
  5. Well it seems you got away with it.
     
  6. Mr Charisma

    Mr Charisma Member

    Location:
    stratford on Avon
    Tell us more ,
    I plan 160 lt / ha through a flat fan nozzle traveling around 9 to 10 kph so a pressure if using 03 nozzles of 3.5 bar or more ( may have to reduce forward speed to keep around 3.5 bar )

    Any good ?????
     
  7. I don't pay my NIAB TAG membership to tell the rest of you all the secrets!
     
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  8. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    I did acidify the water something chronic though
     
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  9. Mr Charisma

    Mr Charisma Member

    Location:
    stratford on Avon
    Sorry didn't realise it was from a confidential source
     
  10. It was quite an impressive result. Probably worth an annual membership fee to see the nice pretty pictures!

    Do I get my commission now, @Fromebridge?
     
  11. I had a block of wheat last year where antlantis did a near 100% job on some fields
    I have learnt that resistance is a field thing depending on the genetics in the field and the treatments it has had in the past
     
  12. Fromebridge

    Fromebridge Member

    Location:
    Glos
    Indeed, an extra ration of grog for you at eight bells.
     
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  13. If you have resistance, altering water volume or adding exchange isn't likely to be a game changer when it comes to Atlantis I'm afraid, nor will mixing topik or broadway star with it do much.
     
  14. When was that sprayed?
     
  15. Oat

    Oat Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    True, Broadway is another ALS inhibitor, so if you have resistance to Atlantis, you'll have resistance to Broadway. The only other ALS products recommended to be used in the same crop as Atlantis are broad leaved weed SU products.

    Topik probably won't do much, because most black grass has resistance to ACCase products like this.

    Your best bet is flufenacet based products in sequence or mix, applied earlier (pre or early post-emergence). Currently there is no resistance to flufenacet
     
  16. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    7/12/16
     
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  17. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    Like Lexus at 10g! At 20g it becomes a grass weed recommendation !!

    Broadway generally poor on blackgrass but unite similar to Atlantis in trials....LEXUS is the difference suggesting additive post em activity with ALS
     
  18. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Have you had the blackgrass tested to see which resistance mechanism you have? Even if you have strong EMR it will still work on small plants with good application and good growing conditions for maximum uptake.

    Have you tried pulling the growing point out to see if it is really going to die? If you roll the new leaf between your fingers to give it a few turns it should pull out cleanly and easily.
     
  19. shakerator

    shakerator Member

    Location:
    LINCS
    no not tested
    it definately wont all die. but i was expecting a spray off and replant but had the chem in stock anyway so just tried to blockbuster it
     
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  20. turbo

    turbo Member

    Location:
    lincs
    What spring crops is it following and when was it drilled (ww I mean)
     

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