Attention landlords

AJ123

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South east
It’s the ’hungry gap‘ I’m worried about, I think tenant farming will be ok in 10 yrs time, but it’s going to be a bloodbath getting there.
Rents will go up short term while people try to expand first, then they’ll shrink to manageable sizes with lower but also better optimised fixed costs
That and the allied industries will take a beating as farmers will stop spending on unnecessaries, first you’ll see of it they will have to stop giving every sales rep a brand new gas guzzling truck to cruise around in, few more fiesta vans I think.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Its not the way it is at all.its not driven my market economics, its driven by misguided govt subsidies

Subsidies (including tax breaks) always distort markets. If market forces were allowed to rule, there would be less farmers anyway as we would, and will be, undercut by cheaper production abroad. One size does not fit all.
 
Its not the way it is at all.its not driven my market economics, its driven by misguided govt subsidies
theres no such thing as market economics in farming, the world market is completely distorted by various governments trying to protect their own food supply and supporting the producers, if you an convince the whole world to stop supporting their farmers THEN i might listen to you
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
theres no such thing as market economics in farming, the world market is completely distorted by various governments trying to protect their own food supply and supporting the producers, if you an convince the whole world to stop supporting their farmers THEN i might listen to you

That’s not true - economics are at work in our markets but there are players using their size and strength to alter supply and demand. Not just governments but big agribusiness too.

Wheat and maize are good examples of something close to the “free market” Anyone can trade them who has an internet connection. Hedge funds will trade big paper positions looking to make a few cents per bushel profit margin then close those positions before they have to deliver or take delivery of physical grain. They add liquidity to the market but will exaggerate the highs and lows. If you are savvy you can surf the price waves up or down. Futures were designed for farmers to lock in a price where there were limited physical markets. It’s a global market place even if gets manipulated along the way.
 

No wot

Member
Most dont “ leeave”, they are evicted
The landlord then hooks into the govt honeypot for subsidies, which tenants are largely excluded from.
Result is rural depopulation
Glasshouse can you explain how landlords in Scotland are able to evict tenants , I have heard stories of this happening but would appreciate knowing the reason that this is happening legally Thanks
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
theres no such thing as market economics in farming, the world market is completely distorted by various governments trying to protect their own food supply and supporting the producers, if you an convince the whole world to stop supporting their farmers THEN i might listen to you
You never read posts properly
 
FBT rents still at £200/ac around here...so my landlords agent tells me, but he won't give me any evidence.
Told a neighbour he had to bid £210/ac to out bid me on ten acres, no entitlements... He did silly sod.
Truth is I bid £50/ac tops or "stick it up your a**e".
If we all did that then agents will get the message and rents will fall until so idiot wishes to lose money.
OK, I may have blown it with that agent, but I won't want it after that neighbour.
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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