Australia Free Trade Deal?

turbo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
Nah! UK farmers will exit the game. Irish product will take the premium shelf. Aussies and yanks will take the hormone/pen-strep shelf.
You should change careers and go on the stage with comments like that!,premium my arse,when we cut your quota you will be trying to stop all the polish beef from flooding your market
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin

There was an Ozzy trade bloke on a few days ago saying he couldn't believe their luck, as usually all trade negotiations tend to stick on agricultural products, but the Brits were happy to agree to their proposals. :banghead:
 
Remember when British Coal was £79 a tonne but it was £43 a tonne shipped direct to the power station from America. At same time Wheat was £120 a tonne but could be shipped in from US at £80/t. Don't remember many of you guys supporting The Coal industry and its supported businesses. Why would Joe Public shed many tears if a few over subsidised farmers bite the dust. That is Irony!
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Remember when British Coal was £79 a tonne but it was £43 a tonne shipped direct to the power station from America. At same time Wheat was £120 a tonne but could be shipped in from US at £80/t. Don't remember many of you guys supporting The Coal industry and its supported businesses. Why would Joe Public shed many tears if a few over subsidised farmers bite the dust. That is Irony!

This line of argument comes up here every few months. By "supporting the coal industry" would you have expected us to attend the picket lines, fight the police, or just have empathy for working men and 200 years of industrial history being flushed down the pan?

I remember lots of empathy, and tales of farmers taking pallets of spuds and veg to be given away free at Northumberland pits, and lots of comments that Scargill was as much to blame as Thatcher for ordering the profitable pits to go out on strike.
 

Hilly

Member
This line of argument comes up here every few months. By "supporting the coal industry" would you have expected us to attend the picket lines, fight the police, or just have empathy for working men and 200 years of industrial history being flushed down the pan?

I remember lots of empathy, and tales of farmers taking pallets of spuds and veg to be given away free at Northumberland pits, and lots of comments that Scargill was as much to blame as Thatcher for ordering the profitable pits to go out on strike.
Exactly , if they had kept calm and Carried on they would have dug coal for many years more .
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
This line of argument comes up here every few months. By "supporting the coal industry" would you have expected us to attend the picket lines, fight the police, or just have empathy for working men and 200 years of industrial history being flushed down the pan?

I remember lots of empathy, and tales of farmers taking pallets of spuds and veg to be given away free at Northumberland pits, and lots of comments that Scargill was as much to blame as Thatcher for ordering the profitable pits to go out on strike.

Scargill was a Marxist who wanted to bring the entire country down and tried to use the miners to that end. Unfortunately for him, he was up against a PM who stood for everything he didn't and when the union split during the strike the game was essentially up for the entire British coal industry. From there on, it was all about open casting and cheap polluting foreign coal.
 

Ashtree

Member
Scargill was a Marxist who wanted to bring the entire country down and tried to use the miners to that end. Unfortunately for him, he was up against a PM who stood for everything he didn't and when the union split during the strike the game was essentially up for the entire British coal industry. From there on, it was all about open casting and cheap polluting foreign coal.

Now it’s all about re-wilding and cheap foreign food. Whatever could go wrong??
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Exactly , if they had kept calm and Carried on they would have dug coal for many years more .
Well, at least until the climate activists demanded they stop at least.
If you’ve spent any time reading the Guardian comments section you’ll be aware of the lingering hatred for Margaret Thatcher “for what she did to the miners” (etc) with a memorable ‘comment’ section after her death where readers said they would travel to the cemetery to “pi$$ on her grave”.
The irony being that the Guardian and it’s readers also demand an end to coal mining and burning, so in effect they would have done the same as Thatcher, albeit for different reasons.
Of course the ‘80’s Labour Party was about the working man and woman, before it was hijacked by middle class identity ‘politics’, turning its back on manual workers, and damning itself to eternal opposition…
 

digger64

Member
This line of argument comes up here every few months. By "supporting the coal industry" would you have expected us to attend the picket lines, fight the police, or just have empathy for working men and 200 years of industrial history being flushed down the pan?

I remember lots of empathy, and tales of farmers taking pallets of spuds and veg to be given away free at Northumberland pits, and lots of comments that Scargill was as much to blame as Thatcher for ordering the profitable pits to go out on strike.
I was told alot of farmers lorries were used opportunistically to haul coal to keep the powerstations going , and you could name your price .
 

Hilly

Member
Well, at least until the climate activists demanded they stop at least.
If you’ve spent any time reading the Guardian comments section you’ll be aware of the lingering hatred for Margaret Thatcher “for what she did to the miners” (etc) with a memorable ‘comment’ section after her death where readers said they would travel to the cemetery to “pi$$ on her grave”.
The irony being that the Guardian and it’s readers also demand an end to coal mining and burning, so in effect they would have done the same as Thatcher, albeit for different reasons.
Of course the ‘80’s Labour Party was about the working man and woman, before it was hijacked by middle class identity ‘politics’, turning its back on manual workers, and damning itself to eternal opposition…
That’s leftie extremist s for you ! Nasty bar stewards
 
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lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
To be fair to the miners the villages ,towns
of S.Wales were financially devastated after
the closures .They were earning good money
and spending it within the local community including
buying a lot off off the butchers.
The mines might not have been profitable in their
own right but the consequential income loss to other businesses
aswell as paying unemployment benefits were probably greater.
Obviously today the enviromental damage would be a major consideration.
 

stewart

Member
Horticulture
Location
Bay of Plenty NZ
£3,400 per yr, your’s more?
But can you beat it & if you can what do you get for it?
$40,000 per year, not sure what we get for it as it all goes into the council coffers, as farming is a business we effectively pay business rates, the point being that we can all look at a selective part of our own industry and say there is not a level playing field, you have to look at the big picture with an overall view and not expect the world to operate in the same manner as the UK does.
 

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