Australia Free Trade Deal?

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Apologies, I am not surprised that you find better quality from out side the UK. Perhaps when you referred to “foreign muck” I wrongly assumed that is what you meant.
Gentleman Indeed. Perhaps

Now tell me... With you not being surprised that I find better quality from "outside" the UK. Do you manufacture many automotive parts? Because I can't keep up sending ££££s over that way.




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JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Don't know what I said about covid?
My point was, with all these trade agreements the UK might want to build a brand to compete. Narrowing it down to Welsh or Scottish, limits you a bit and could cause some confusion.
High quality British Beef as a brand would include more product and save you competing against each other.

Cant be possible to hit the point with so many answers to everything. So near but so far and all that.

I guess you're right... I see where you are coming from. But living here most of the time in Wales... And having a top-notch local butcher I've probably driven past the beast at some time that's sharing my plate with my Sprouts and Mustard.
 
Markets are odd things and farmers usually have no control over where their products go.
There are a lot of piggeries around here and a huge processing plant less than 100 km away, but all pork in the local supermarket is imported, mostly from Europe I think.
One big advantage UK farmers have is a very close large local urban market, which few of us have in Australia. Local processing, branding and marketing are big opportunities which I think is already common in the UK. Small produces will have to go down that path to remain viable by what I am reading. Those that can do that can be the price setters unlike those of us who produce products which go into commodity markets.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Would not you Kiwi's have a fielday with having a free trade / tarriff free deal with the UK???🤔
I personally don't believe the "fielday" would be large enough to notice.
NZ has several quotas unfilled, and those have been unfilled for decades now, for good reason .
(Plus, the Brits aren't allowed to have field days until they are all vaccinated, so that's not fair)

-Taking the top off a half-full bottle doesn't alter anything, bar the actual act of removing the lid, this is purely a political exercise
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
I personally don't believe the "fielday" would be large enough to notice.
NZ has several quotas unfilled, and those have been unfilled for decades now, for good reason .
(Plus, the Brits aren't allowed to have field days until they are all vaccinated, so that's not fair)

-Taking the top off a half-full bottle doesn't alter anything, bar the actual act of removing the lid, this is purely a political exercise

That's true as long as your customers keep buying at high prices.
China was spitting out its dummy with Australia only a few months ago
and threatening tariffs or total boycotting.
It plays the market with soya bean buying with the states and is
used to cancelling purchases late on to manipulate the market.
Volatile times ahead which could see large swings in price direction
which is not great for anyone .
What the UK needs is a viable alternative government to the one
we have that values agriculture and the billions it adds to the domestic
leisure industry.They are very short sighted in their approach.
 
That's true as long as your customers keep buying at high prices.
China was spitting out its dummy with Australia only a few months ago
and threatening tariffs or total boycotting.
It plays the market with soya bean buying with the states and is
used to cancelling purchases late on to manipulate the market.
Volatile times ahead which could see large swings in price direction
which is not great for anyone .
What the UK needs is a viable alternative government to the one
we have that values agriculture and the billions it adds to the domestic
leisure industry.They are very short sighted in their approach.
So you need a viable alternative government, where's that going to come from??? Would you like Trudeau, your more than welcome to have him.....👍😉
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
That's true as long as your customers keep buying at high prices.
China was spitting out its dummy with Australia only a few months ago
and threatening tariffs or total boycotting.
It plays the market with soya bean buying with the states and is
used to cancelling purchases late on to manipulate the market.
Volatile times ahead which could see large swings in price direction
which is not great for anyone .
What the UK needs is a viable alternative government to the one
we have that values agriculture and the billions it adds to the domestic
leisure industry.They are very short sighted in their approach.
Volatility is great for some, but not all.

Stability/predictability is what causes the real damage - eg "the end of the road for small livestock farms" thread amongst 100 others on here...
..it facilitates very small businesses to continue to operate with slim/negative margins, and helps nobody by pretending to help everybody

the real problem ahead is that most people can see the cliff looming up, and will choose to either brake or accelerate - forgetting that they are actually holding a steering wheel that could alter their course away from that cliff.

Few producing countries are prepared to throw their farmers a decent sand anchor (eg ELMS) which is why, from a Kiwi perspective, I wonder why the gloom and doom?
1. Historically high farmgate prices for good levels of equity
2. Decoupled payments, should you choose to accept it
3. Massive domestic market
4. Reliable island climate
5. Cheap grain

We only have number 4! And Aus has number 5.
 

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