Australia Free Trade Deal?

nelly55

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Location
Yorkshire
With the livestock industry as everyone is saying going into meltdown and disappearing,the green bunny hugging lot wanting trees,peat bogs,open park land ,the bit of corn still grown will need a market.No wait has Boris a plan to sell the arable sector down the river.Fact is this country is in a mess in every sector because no one will stand up for anything.
 
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Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
It's up to us farmers to adapt to the reality of business in the brave new Brexited world.

Besides, if the UK government really do push too far and farming starts to collapse they'll be faced with the cost of maintaining the countryside at the taxpayer expense. It's make farm subsidies look like small change.
What are the government supposed to maintain? Agriculture won't collapse but the pressure is on to diversify out of traditional farming. More city folk will be looking for play farms were they can work from home from and then get government grants at the same time to make their lives more beautiful. There is now a smaller pot of money that has to be spread further over anyone who has land. And you can bet anything, it will be the likes of the big charities such as the NT, RSPB, etc who end up with the lions share of this.
 

holwellcourtfarm

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Livestock Farmer
What are the government supposed to maintain? Agriculture won't collapse but the pressure is on to diversify out of traditional farming. More city folk will be looking for play farms were they can work from home from and then get government grants at the same time to make their lives more beautiful. There is now a smaller pot of money that has to be spread further over anyone who has land. And you can bet anything, it will be the likes of the big charities such as the NT, RSPB, etc who end up with the lions share of this.
The UK landscape looks as it does because it is managed. The public value that look and the tourist industry rely on it. It's maintained at incredibly low cost by those of us producing food from it, typically around the minimum wage per hour.

Compare that with what the charities you mention pay to maintain the land they already run, typically between 10 and 20 times as much per acre in my experience. Multiply that across the landscape and it's unaffordable.

But then I'm sure you already know this.

It's the Achilles heel of the land sparing brigade.
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Until UK farmers learn to stand up for one another n not just think of themselves like they do,being sold down the river by government will happen time and time again..
Bozo agrees a deal with no scrutiny selling us out, where the hell do you think all this Aussie meat will be going if the Aussies fall out with China.
What the feck is the point of the NFU
 

juke

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Location
DURHAM
Bozo agrees a deal with no scrutiny selling us out, where the hell do you think all this Aussie meat will be going if the Aussies fall out with China.
What the feck is the point of the NFU
There is no point in the NFU , wait until the public feel E10 in the autumn and the reaction to it and where they put the blame, the NFU are responsible for it, hurts UK public and supports American farmers there's a winner for the NFU.
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
There is no point in the NFU , wait until the public feel E10 in the autumn and the reaction to it and where they put the blame, the NFU are responsible for it, hurts UK public and supports American farmers there's a winner for the NFU.
Saw Gove on TV this morning praising his tame pet “Minette” says it all of the NFU!!
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Good on Willowford Beef / Martin Bairds Melrose for such amazing Blue Grey beef / steaks

Bring on the fight for true provenance and find a levy board with a spine to tell the World

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Matt78

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Location
Sydney
Baroness Boycott lol. When are all these people going to wake up to the fact that Australia can produce as much beef to UK standards as it chooses to ?
that's right we have been exporting beef in to the EU for years that's why all this is just rubbish you guys really don't have much to worry about the UK will not be flooded by beef or anything else for that matter
 

Ashtree

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Wasn’t Brexit about “freedom to farm”?
Good on Willowford Beef / Martin Bairds Melrose for such amazing Blue Grey beef / steaks

Bring on the fight for true provenance and find a levy board with a spine to tell the World

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Jeez… that looks serious. Daughter used to work for Bord Bia in France, promoting Irish food to the great and the good.
Endless tasting sessions organised for chefs, restaraunters, influencers, etc, with hand picked product like that for beef, lamb etc,. Baileys, Jameson, Kerrygold cheese etc, lashed out with abandon.
That standard of product sells itself, once you put the marketing infrastructure in place.
Who in their right mind would be chewing a piece of Skippy, when that‘s available?
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
The UK landscape looks as it does because it is managed. The public value that look and the tourist industry rely on it. It's maintained at incredibly low cost by those of us producing food from it, typically around the minimum wage per hour.

Compare that with what the charities you mention pay to maintain the land they already run, typically between 10 and 20 times as much per acre in my experience. Multiply that across the landscape and it's unaffordable.

But then I'm sure you already know this.

It's the Achilles heel of the land sparing brigade.

Do you think the public do value that?
I think most of them don’t even realise it is the way it is through farming. They won’t realise this until Nut nuts, Goldsmith and Juniper have a scrubby wilderness in it’s place. Then the penny may drop and questions start being asked.
 

Ceri

Member
Subsidys disappearing to be replaced by some airy fairy green scheme worth fudge all, other threads on this forum about the demise of small farms & people dispersing there suckler cows that have been on the land for generations, free trade deals with countries who can produce food on a massive scale with very little environmental & welfare standards.... I could go on..... Well done to all the farmers who trusted boris & voted brexit........ 🤔🤔🤔🤔
 

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