Australia Free Trade Deal?

Jimdog1

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Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?
 

glasshouse

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Aussie and nz farms are laid out for efficient farming.
All the land round here is laid out to maximise the shooting.
It is not efficient with trees round every field
And pheasants devouring your seeds and crops
 
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cows sh#t me to tears

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Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?
Yes. And in the dairy all must be accounted for when audited and nothing out of date etc etc.
 
Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?
Very little antibiotics used here. None of my sheep get any unless they are crook. Out of 2000, I probably on give antibiotics to 5 or 10 a year.
All my sheep get are a 6 in 1 at lamb marking and another at weaning. Ewes get one 6 in 1 booster a year.
I also only do one summer drench for worms as they run on stubbles all summer and I only have winter pastures.
 

Jimdog1

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Mixed Farmer
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Devon
Very little antibiotics used here. None of my sheep get any unless they are crook. Out of 2000, I probably on give antibiotics to 5 or 10 a year.
All my sheep get are a 6 in 1 at lamb marking and another at weaning. Ewes get one 6 in 1 booster a year.
I also only do one summer drench for worms as they run on stubbles all summer and I only have winter pastures.
Thank you. Much less than me .👍
 

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?

Apparently, antibiotic use per animal in Australian poultry is over 16 times higher than in the UK while in Australian pigs it is nearly three times higher, although use in Australian cattle and sheep appears to be low.

https://www.saveourantibiotics.org/...farm-antibiotic-standards-may-2021updated.pdf
 
Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?
Just how far behind is the UK compared to NZ and Australia???
No, I'm not joking either.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Quick question for our Aus/NZ/US/Canada friends. We have a body here (RUMA) which has been encouraging us as farmers to cut antibiotic use in farmed animals and pressure has been put on vets to only prescribe where there is a need. I believe use has been cut by 75% in some sectors and many of us are familiar with totaling annual use. Do you have something similar in your countries? Do you need a prescription to obtain meds?
Depends on the likelihood of use/abuse to an extent.

When I took over management of a dairy unit, I needed to do a "vet consult" where I laid out my treatment plans for various scenarios, and the vet helped refine that.
Then that was recorded at both ends, and meant if we needed (eg) a course of Tylan for a heifer, I could phone up and get it delivered that day.

( Absolute Godsend when you've got 120 cows calving per week )

I believe there is a similar watchdog system in place, the manager prior had been flagged on the system but he was a "throw drugs at it" type of operator - one in 8 cows - whereas I'm more into the prevention, and we maybe used 10% as much AB as Jesse did

Now that we're drystock grazing I've only treated 2 animals in 5 years, and the vet was there performing operations and dished it out, so pretty much a prescription. (y)
I really don't like the collateral damage with antibiotic, so we try to be proactive and this keeps us chemical free.... will probably end up certified organic in the future.
 

Jimdog1

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Mixed Farmer
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Devon
Just how far behind is the UK compared to NZ and Australia???
No, I'm not joking either.
I can only comment on my own sectors. For laying hens any antibiotic treatment my vet sends a copy of prescription to my egg packer. Antibiotics used in layers is low often nothing from flock to flock. In sheep antibiotics is mainly for foot issues and once again customer requires annual declaration from vet. Vets are proactive in advocating less antibiotics and alternative management. Just curious as to the approach in other countries. 🙂
 

Muck Spreader

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Something a bit shifty with the state of the UK, Oz trade deal, still unsigned.

There are 32 chapters in the agreement, plus four annexes with multiple sub-sections and nine side letters. By the end of Australia's trade minister Dan Tehan's visit, 29 of those chapters had their legal text finalized, with three to go.

The Australian version of the deal stands at around 1,600 pages, while the U.K. text is 2,600. “I'm not quite sure whether it's just the type spacing or the different sides of the schedule," Tehan quipped, "but they've got a few more pages than us."

Sounds like Frosty has been at work! 😁
 

JP1

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