Autosteer and pylons

[yellowbelly]

Unless I’m mistaken the driver is in full control at all times. Perhaps that small fact is lost somewhere along the line.

Education perhaps until tractors are FULLY and completely autonomous. Autosteer is a drivers aid. Rely on it completely at your own peril.

Exactly.

To employ one driver who isn't aware of his surroundings is bad luck/bad training/ bad management/call it what you like.........................

....................but to employ two is downright recklessness.......

You'd have thought at least one of these two blokes might have noticed the other one coming at some stage in the proceedings

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Obviously had too much "overlap" in their settings

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Exactly.

To employ one driver who isn't aware of his surroundings is bad luck/bad training/ bad management/call it what you like.........................

....................but to employ two is downright recklessness.......
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You'd have thought at least one of these two blokes might have noticed the other one coming at some stage in the proceedings

Yeh I remember that beauty from Wreckers! I think I gave it an alternate hashtag....

 

[D14]

Exactly.

To employ one driver who isn't aware of his surroundings is bad luck/bad training/ bad management/call it what you like.........................

....................but to employ two is downright recklessness.......
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You'd have thought at least one of these two blokes might have noticed the other one coming at some stage in the proceedings

Now that is just ridiculous. The two drivers should of lost their jobs for that.

 

[Tom H]

Hello everyone, sorry for the late appearance. In a slight rush so I will go in more detail later about Weston Power later.

Just to give more detail on what happened. It happened at 11am, the driver had actually had an early finish the night before and had a day off down to the weather about three days before.

It was total human error, I'm not blaming autosteer at all. I love it and would struggle to be as profitable as we are without it. My operators also love it. The driver was aware of the pylon when he set in on this breed up the field. How could he not be, its massive! What caused the issue was, as he got going he started to get a blockage on the cultivator down to some trash moving through the machine. he was adjusting this with the hydraulic depth control. With his attention moved to this he totally lost proximity to where the pylon is was. You have to remember that this tractor has telemetry. so it recorded in real time what it was doing and what was happening. So we could see when investigating that he was working the hydraulics as he approached the pylon. The rest is history. In hindsight we should of mapped the pylon, (we do have a lot of them mapped) so it then beeps at you when near. This is something we are now about to do and making sure it gives a beep early enough to stop this again. We are also looking at other ideas. He volunteered his phone records and text messages etc all looked legitimate.

Points to mention.

I like a lot on here thought "how the f&%£ing hell does some one hit one of those! Well afraid they do, three this last year alone. Weston power are changing 2x wood poles every day in harvest alone!

We shared it as I want to make people aware, we are a big social media farm as a lot of you know, we do some great things, but things do go wrong. We could of pretended it didn't happen BUT IT DID!

Auto steer users. map you obstacles.

Know what you should do. Our employees are fully trained in this and have stickers in there cabs with what to do numbers etc.

Mobile phone signal was a massive issue in this situation, he managed to contact me via WhatsApp! I struggled to make a call to the Weston Power when stood in the field too. We have digital two-way radios in all tractor. There wasn't anyone else in a tractor close enough to hear him. Again we are looking at lone worker devises.


If I was looking in I would find it hard not to judge. I'm thick skinned. Its great the operator who's fault it was, wanted us to put it out there to learn from his mistakes. He's very lucky to be alive. Its the biggest "near miss" (not really a miss) we have had and will hopefully ever have. WE GOT AWAY WITH IT.


PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE BE SO CARFUL, IT HAPPENS SO EASILY .

STAY SAFE.

 

[yellow belly]

thanks tom we all need to be aware of the danger and what to do if a wire comes down
this type of accident hitting electric lines can happen to any farm with power lines across the line of travel

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Hello everyone, sorry for the late appearance. In a slight rush so I will go in more detail later about Weston Power later.

Just to give more detail on what happened. It happened at 11am, the driver had actually had an early finish the night before and had a day off down to the weather about three days before.

It was total human error, I'm not blaming autosteer at all. I love it and would struggle to be as profitable as we are without it. My operators also love it. The driver was aware of the pylon when he set in on this breed up the field. How could he not be, its massive! What caused the issue was, as he got going he started to get a blockage on the cultivator down to some trash moving through the machine. he was adjusting this with the hydraulic depth control. With his attention moved to this he totally lost proximity to where the pylon is was. You have to remember that this tractor has telemetry. so it recorded in real time what it was doing and what was happening. So we could see when investigating that he was working the hydraulics as he approached the pylon. The rest is history. In hindsight we should of mapped the pylon, (we do have a lot of them mapped) so it then beeps at you when near. This is something we are now about to do and making sure it gives a beep early enough to stop this again. We are also looking at other ideas. He volunteered his phone records and text messages etc all looked legitimate.

Points to mention.

I like a lot on here thought "how the f&%£ing hell does some one hit one of those! Well afraid they do, three this last year alone. Weston power are changing 2x wood poles every day in harvest alone!

We shared it as I want to make people aware, we are a big social media farm as a lot of you know, we do some great things, but things do go wrong. We could of pretended it didn't happen BUT IT DID!

Auto steer users. map you obstacles.

Know what you should do. Our employees are fully trained in this and have stickers in there cabs with what to do numbers etc.

Mobile phone signal was a massive issue in this situation, he managed to contact me via WhatsApp! I struggled to make a call to the Weston Power when stood in the field too. We have digital two-way radios in all tractor. There wasn't anyone else in a tractor close enough to hear him. Again we are looking at lone worker devises.


If I was looking in I would find it hard not to judge. I'm thick skinned. Its great the operator who's fault it was, wanted us to put it out there to learn from his mistakes. He's very lucky to be alive. Its the biggest "near miss" (not really a miss) we have had and will hopefully ever have. WE GOT AWAY WITH IT.


PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE BE SO CARFUL, IT HAPPENS SO EASILY .

STAY SAFE.

Thanks for posting this, huge respect to you and your driver for going public to warn others, not many would have done!

I can only imagine the pee taking that will happen for the rest of his years when he enters that field again!

 

[Princess Pooper]

Hello everyone, sorry for the late appearance. In a slight rush so I will go in more detail later about Weston Power later.

Just to give more detail on what happened. It happened at 11am, the driver had actually had an early finish the night before and had a day off down to the weather about three days before.

It was total human error, I'm not blaming autosteer at all. I love it and would struggle to be as profitable as we are without it. My operators also love it. The driver was aware of the pylon when he set in on this breed up the field. How could he not be, its massive! What caused the issue was, as he got going he started to get a blockage on the cultivator down to some trash moving through the machine. he was adjusting this with the hydraulic depth control. With his attention moved to this he totally lost proximity to where the pylon is was. You have to remember that this tractor has telemetry. so it recorded in real time what it was doing and what was happening. So we could see when investigating that he was working the hydraulics as he approached the pylon. The rest is history. In hindsight we should of mapped the pylon, (we do have a lot of them mapped) so it then beeps at you when near. This is something we are now about to do and making sure it gives a beep early enough to stop this again. We are also looking at other ideas. He volunteered his phone records and text messages etc all looked legitimate.

Points to mention.

I like a lot on here thought "how the f&%£ing hell does some one hit one of those! Well afraid they do, three this last year alone. Weston power are changing 2x wood poles every day in harvest alone!

We shared it as I want to make people aware, we are a big social media farm as a lot of you know, we do some great things, but things do go wrong. We could of pretended it didn't happen BUT IT DID!

Auto steer users. map you obstacles.

Know what you should do. Our employees are fully trained in this and have stickers in there cabs with what to do numbers etc.

Mobile phone signal was a massive issue in this situation, he managed to contact me via WhatsApp! I struggled to make a call to the Weston Power when stood in the field too. We have digital two-way radios in all tractor. There wasn't anyone else in a tractor close enough to hear him. Again we are looking at lone worker devises.


If I was looking in I would find it hard not to judge. I'm thick skinned. Its great the operator who's fault it was, wanted us to put it out there to learn from his mistakes. He's very lucky to be alive. Its the biggest "near miss" (not really a miss) we have had and will hopefully ever have. WE GOT AWAY WITH IT.


PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE BE SO CARFUL, IT HAPPENS SO EASILY .

STAY SAFE.

Thanks for posting, Tom. You won't remember me but we have met on your farm and I have seen what a professional operation you run and all credit to you and the operator for putting this out there - as I tried to stress, as a warning to others. I know that external communication is part of your ethos at Flawborough and this is an example of that.

There but for the grace of God go any of us, autosteer or not.