Autumn manure banned

l'ordinary bonville

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Yorks
I,ve heard down the grapevine that the EA are banning autumn slurry and solid muck applications as AHDB have told them there is no crop justification for applications of N or manur containing N apart from on osr

This effectively means all and any livestock manures or digestate cannot be applied to stubbles so the spreading season is only from end jan to as late as you can get on a crop in late spring

This has massive ramifications for storage requirements and spreading over the land

Has anyone else heard similar?
 

AlfM

Member
Location
Norfolk
My agronomist has been getting excited about this recently. There have been meetings going on in the background about this i believe but it's not quite as extreme as you suggest from what i'm told. However yes we will need to justify the amount put on and show the crop needs it. Putting muck on in the autumn for sugar beet so it can be ploughed and get the frost for example won't be happening anymore.
 

whatnow

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Location
Wiltshire
Had a letter from them today re sewage application in the autumn. I’d need to re-read it but I think they’re saying as you’ve heard and ‘inviting’ you to justify the application through rb209
 
Remember Rb209 is merely guidance and can be ignored with justification, even better if that justification is written down by a FACTS qualified advisor. Such justification might be that an autumn cereal crop has had a lot of chopped straw incorporated or the crop has been min-tilled so there is little N mineralised.
The NVZ rules are legislation and must be followed.
 

l'ordinary bonville

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Yorks
Had a letter from them today re sewage application in the autumn. I’d need to re-read it but I think they’re saying as you’ve heard and ‘inviting’ you to justify the application through rb209
My guess is this is where it will originat from. RB209 becomes the stick to beat us with and it will be beyond argument.
all thanks to AHDB
 

l'ordinary bonville

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Yorks
Remember Rb209 is merely guidance and can be ignored with justification, even better if that justification is written down by a FACTS qualified advisor. Such justification might be that an autumn cereal crop has had a lot of chopped straw incorporated or the crop has been min-tilled so there is little N mineralised.
The NVZ rules are legislation and must be followed.
Been told chopped straw is not a justification
 

AlfM

Member
Location
Norfolk
Heard it's all to do with the Farming Rules for Water which have been out a few years now. So far the EA not really done anything about them but maybe they've woken up.
 

l'ordinary bonville

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Yorks
Trouble is I don’t think it’s up for consultation

I think ea have just sought clarification on whether there is justification and where the answer is no then autumn is illegal End of

Not their problem how to comply with the law as it exists

Feel like another rug has been pulled out from under us

By those that are meant to be working for us
 
Had a letter from them today re sewage application in the autumn. I’d need to re-read it but I think they’re saying as you’ve heard and ‘inviting’ you to justify the application through rb209
Was this letter from the Environment Agency? You don't have to justify any part of Rb209 to the EA.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
if its polluting should we be using it ?

i commented on a facebook image of someone spreading slurry on a hard frost a hill with river at the bottom and the replies were clearly oblivious to the pollution- congratulatory to the operator for using the frost to “get on” in really wet in conditions !!


we are our own worst enemy sometimes that’s for sure

i would have no issue with banning application end of September- late march ?
 

35% of English and Welsh farmers possibly/probably depressed

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Written by Michelle Martin from Agriland

The Royal Agricultural Benevolent Institution (RABI) has today, Thursday, October 14, published the findings of The Big Farming Survey, which shows 35% of English and Welsh farmers are either possibly or probably depressed.

The survey, based on over 15,000 responses, concentrates on the health and well-being of the farming community in England and Wales in the 2020s.

The Royal Agricultural Benevolent Institution (RABI) is a national charity that provides support to the farming community across England and Wales.

Mental health​


Mental well-being, the survey notes, describes our ability to cope with the ‘ups and downs’ of everyday life.

According to the survey, 14% of the farming community is ‘possibly depressed’ while...
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