Autumn manure banned

[Courier]

Perhaps the NFU should tell its members to boycott it?

Would be an excellent idea and might go a small way to get folk to stop taking farmers for granted..... They can import the food to eat but a means of getting rid of the end product of human digestive systems needs to be appreciated - 'Cos at present it is not.

 

[N.Yorks.]

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[Gong Farmer]

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Probably mentioned elsewhere but was told today that George Eustace said last week that any money lost in reduced BPS could easily be made up in payments for on-farm initiatives such as 'maintaining soil health'
If we can't achieve that with manures, that only leaves cover crops, heaven help us.

 

[N.Yorks.]

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This is the statement/letter (link above) that the EA issued. If you read it carefully I think there are things that can be done to demonstrate lower risk......
-have up to date soil analysis
-don't increase soil indices if they are over the target for P and K
-document the above into a nutrient management plan
-show the soil type and OM percentage
-demonstrate whether land is medium, high or very high risk as far as spreading manures go (risk map as per NVZ's).

So, if your land has P/K index of >2 then no justification, if your land is high or very high risk for polluting surface water then no justification. If it's a very free draining soil then perhaps no justification as leaching will be high.

This then leaves land that isn't the above so autumn applications could be justified......?

 

[N.Yorks.]

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This is the statement/letter (link above) that the EA issued. If you read it carefully I think there are things that can be done to demonstrate lower risk......
-have up to date soil analysis
-don't increase soil indices if they are over the target for P and K
-document the above into a nutrient management plan
-show the soil type and OM percentage
-demonstrate whether land is medium, high or very high risk as far as spreading manures go (risk map as per NVZ's).

So, if your land has P/K index of >2 then no justification, if your land is high or very high risk for polluting surface water then no justification. If it's a very free draining soil then perhaps no justification as leaching will be high.

This then leaves land that isn't the above so autumn applications could be justified......?

You can also search up online individual segments of river catchments and see what the significant sources of water pollution are.... so if you did that and agricultural pollution wasn't mentioned, then its evidence that previous practise in an area weren't an issue. Just a bit more homework to be done.....

 

[robs1]

Roll on retirement

 

[milkloss]

Yo

You can also search up online individual segments of river catchments and see what the significant sources of water pollution are.... so if you did that and agricultural pollution wasn't mentioned, then its evidence that previous practise in an area weren't an issue. Just a bit more homework to be done.....

Don't do this unless you want 'the rage'. I did when the NVZ review came up a few years ago and there's all talk of land area classification which is great but of course means that ag gets the greatest blame for any pollution. Doesn't matter if there's a water works outfall halfway down the river or the fact they had the water works marked on the wrong place on the map.

 

[ajd132]

If osr is justifiable then surly a cover crop can be aswel? This whole thing is absolutely mental.

 

[B'o'B]

Nappies for all livestock?

No, you probably be made to go around after livestock picking up the poo and putting it in a plastic bag and tying it to the nearest hedge or tree!

 

[teslacoils]

No, you probably be made to go around after livestock picking up the poo and putting it in a plastic bag and tying it to the nearest hedge or tree!

I look forward to horse riders having to carry a rucksack and small shovel to stop their nags turds landing on the highway and rain washing it into the drains and ditches. That will wipe the supercilious smirks off their smug faces.

 

[robs1]

Well organic farming is buggered then, perhaps it's another way to make everyone vegetarian, of course with urea banned and ammonium nitrate leaching there will be bugger all to eat, at least obesity willbe cured

 

[AndrewM]

Growers to be hit by restrictions on autumn manure spreading - Farmers Weekly

Rules aimed at tackling river pollution in England could see arable farmers barred from spreading livestock manures and digestate this autumn, as the

www.fwi.co.uk

Penalties are unlikely to come into force immediately, however. Instead, the EA is set to publish a statement on 2 August that will provide more information on the management of organic materials this autumn and is expected to offer farmers a one-year grace period, to allow them time to adjust to the rules.

yet the SFI wants us to increase organic manure applications to raise soil OM

 

[teslacoils]

Nice. Will soon have the digestate lot paying per cube to have us grass stuff down to avoid a massive glut to shift in spring.

Now, if we could apply the full crop need via dribble bars, rather than titsing about with the current limits, we could avoid the issue and reduce artificial fert use to zero.....

 

[snarling bee]

Will the water companies get an exemption for digested sewage sludge????

 

[Chalky]

Certain crops as far as I remember have no NMax, and as such no rules are placed upon them thus(??)

If I have a spring crop, can I put a radish/radish & oat cover(neither has published NMax), and slurry/digestate it to make it grow well & create organic N,P & K as fresh matter? This is destroyed ahead of sowing in the spring-possibly after another dose whilst it is still 'growing'? Have I broken any laws-other than 'the spirit of the' which has been done forever when farmers are given stupid rules to adhere to!

 

[teslacoils]

Sod the spirit. It's black or white. If they create a loophole then it's fine to use.

 

[teslacoils]

Will the water companies get an exemption for digested sewage sludge????

Can't see why the would if there is non for pasteurised ad juice.....unless a few hands are shook and trips to see what we facilities arranged (in the Bahamas).

 

[Yale]

You mean to say the EA are going to check every application of manure of every field in person……

If you are daft enough to dob yourself in with your paperwork…….

Blanket rules are stupid!

 

[Wombat]

Will the water companies get an exemption for digested sewage sludge????

If they do everyone should reject it and put some pressure on that way

 

[Wombat]

The problem with spring stuff on heavy clay is you cannot get on to spread till too late