Autumn manure banned

[4course]

There’s 330,000 allotments in the country as well as around 30,000 million gardens where people grow bits.

What do all those bozo’s do with the remains in the bottom of the bottle of the glyphosate they buy from B & Q?

They pour it down the sink but agriculture gets the blame.

All this is, is another attack at shutting down U.K. ag plc. It started under Blair and has been continued by every government since. Importing food and selling carbon credits is what they want to do.

im not so sure it was blair that started it seem to recall thatcher and co responsibility levy

 

[Billboy1]

come on then who's just cracking on as normal and ignoring the ban ?

 

[An Gof]

come on then who's just cracking on as normal and ignoring the ban ?

Spread all my FYM yesterday …….. BUT had a change of plan. Instead of applying to winter oat stubbles prior to drilling Winter Barley it all went on winter Barley stubbles before OSR drilled.
Only reason we changed plans was because it’s so wet we can’t cut anything so decided to get a job out the way whilst all the other work just backs up

 

[warksfarmer]

come on then who's just cracking on as normal and ignoring the ban ?

Cancelled ours but plenty are spreading.

 

[An Gof]

My spreader contractor says he is in blissful ignorance and doesn’t know anything about these new “rules”

 

[Grass And Grain]

come on then who's just cracking on as normal and ignoring the ban ?

Will be going on the OSR fields, OSR having an autumn crop need.

 

[warksfarmer]

My spreader contractor says he is in blissful ignorance and doesn’t know anything about these new “rules”

Joking aside if the EA don’t actually write to every single farmer informing them of the new rules then they couldn’t enforce them anyway . We’ve had nothing as of yet. Anybody else?
I know plenty of farmers who don’t have social media and don’t even email or use the internet. So if the EA are assuming the message is out then they are wishfull thinking.

 

[R J]

come on then who's just cracking on as normal and ignoring the ban ?

What ban..
I'm only applying our poultry manure in front of osr , am selling some and will apply some in spring on wheat (only if I'm able to change my spreader to a spinning disc machine by then though )

 

[B'o'B]

Joking aside if the EA don’t actually write to every single farmer informing them of the new rules then they couldn’t enforce them anyway . We’ve had nothing as of yet. Anybody else?
I know plenty of farmers who don’t have social media and don’t even email or use the internet. So if the EA are assuming the message is out then they are wishfull thinking.

Ignorance is not a defense in these matters, at best it could count as mitigating circumstance.

 

[warksfarmer]

Ignorance is not a defense in these matters, at best it could count as mitigating circumstance.

It wouldn’t be ignorance if a 70 + year old farmer was stood in court with zero history of email, internet use, still using a Nokia mobile phone with an analogue screen.

If the EA don’t communicate with the intended parties in an official capacity then they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.

 

[B'o'B]

It wouldn’t be ignorance if a 70 + year old farmer was stood in court with zero history of email, internet use, still using a Nokia mobile phone with an analogue screen.

If the EA don’t communicate with the intended parties in an official capacity then they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on.

Ignorance is not a derogatory term, but a statement of fact.
The person you describe is ignorant of the law (or in this case the way the law will be applied going forward). In a court of law that is not a defense, no matter how good your lawyers are.

 

[warksfarmer]

Ignorance is not a derogatory term, but a statement of fact.
The person you describe is ignorant of the law (or in this case the way the law will be applied going forward). In a court of law that is not a defense, no matter how good your lawyers are.

How can they be ignorant when:

1. new rules have come into play but the government body who authorised the new rules has NOT communicated them to the industry it involves?

 

[B'o'B]

How can they be ignorant when:

1. new rules have come into play but the government body who authorised the new rules has NOT communicated them to the industry it involves?

They don’t know the rules, therefore they are ignorant of the rules.
The law doesn’t say “only the laws you know of apply to you.”

 

[Billboy1]

Joking aside if the EA don’t actually write to every single farmer informing them of the new rules then they couldn’t enforce them anyway . We’ve had nothing as of yet. Anybody else?
I know plenty of farmers who don’t have social media and don’t even email or use the internet. So if the EA are assuming the message is out then they are wishfull thinking.

My thoughts as well they do send a letter when we have to stop irrigating

 

[robs1]

My spreader contractor says he is in blissful ignorance and doesn’t know anything about these new “rules”

Mine said the same yesterday, he genuinely didnt know

 

[Sonoftheheir]

What do you have to put in your email for the RPS? Is there a form?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

We haven’t had a letter either.

 

[Flat 10]

How come you can't apply muck in the autumn to plough down for spring use but you could get omex or whoever to apply fert (No N I realise) to plough down in the same scenario? ie when there is no crop need.

 

[4course]

How come you can't apply muck in the autumn to plough down for spring use but you could get omex or whoever to apply fert (No N I realise) to plough down in the same scenario? ie when there is no crop need.

probably because the fertilizer industry got their act together and involved in drawing up these rules whereas the farmers representatives did what they have always done .i.e said feck all

 

[Grass And Grain]

Is there anything in these regulations that prevents autumn spreading, ploughed down for a spring crop?

Presumably it's not allowed, but don't remember reading anything to that effect.