Autumn manure banned

[holwellcourtfarm]

This is the transcript of yesterday's Lords debate on the second amendment of The Environment Bill. https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lord...Z45Ut3t4UoQJMC4MC7vLziBlqV01Nyp6Dq39uQ#g629.2

I thought it interesting that Baroness Young of Old Scone made the following contribution, given that she was Chair of The Environment Agency for quite a few years:

 

[Sonoftheheir]

So who’s had the EA book thrown at them?

Anyone had any inspections?

 

[principal skinner]

I haven’t spread any at all honest Guv. I’m storing it about half inch thick, evenly spread over the whole field

 

[Sonoftheheir]

I got an authorisation from the EA, only took a couple of wks

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Very interesting to see FG report of George Eustace's comments at the HFU fringe event at the Tory conference:

 

[DaveGrohl]

"Or other stuff" made me lol.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

"There is a way of doing this..."
Yea, its called livestock. That other thing the govt are trying to cut.

 

[DaveGrohl]

I honestly don't know how some of these people achieved any qualifications. They don't appear to be capable of rational thought.

 

[Brisel]

I honestly don't know how some of these people achieved any qualifications. They don't appear to be capable of rational thought.

It’s just a peeing contest between the politicians and the civil servants. Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister might as well be a documentary, not a comedy.

 

[Against_the_grain]

....So are we allowed to spread maunre/sewage sludge next year or not?

 

[teslacoils]

We can make better use of manures by being allowed to use more if applied correctly.

 

[farmerm]

Very interesting to see FG report of George Eustace's comments at the HFU fringe event at the Tory conference:

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is Nitrogen even a mineral?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

is Nitrogen even a mineral?

Surely it's an element, not a mineral?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

....So are we allowed to spread maunre/sewage sludge next year or not?

Only in the spring?!

 

[Wombat]

Has anyone cared this autumn?
So far driving around I have seen, slurry, chicken manure, compost, fym and AD juice being spring and not in isolated loads?

 

[4course]

Has anyone cared this autumn?
So far driving around I have seen, slurry, chicken manure, compost, fym and AD juice being spring and not in isolated loads?

its still summer here 20 degrees and glorious sun !!!! and our esteemed politicial sector representative says we should be using organic fertilizer

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Has anyone cared this autumn?
So far driving around I have seen, slurry, chicken manure, compost, fym and AD juice being spring and not in isolated loads?

Some I’ve heard have taken notice, others haven’t.

The EA haven’t got the staff to enforce it this year. I think next year will be different? So plans need to be made, unless they tear up the rule.

 

[Drillman]

Some I’ve heard have taken notice, others haven’t.

The EA haven’t got the staff to enforce it this year. I think next year will be different? So plans need to be made, unless they tear up the rule.

Personally I think there will be a big rethink once the water companies and AD plants are full to burst and no where to spread it.

Lot of land and lot of farms in spring don’t/can’t take muck as land doesn’t travel or cropping doesn’t fit!

 

[Baz65]

My mate works for the EA and he told me the river Severns the cleanest it's ever been almost drinkable, so I don't know why they are pushing this ban unless it's just another way to keep their funding from the Government.

 

[wanton dwarf]

"There is a way of doing this..."
Yea, its called livestock. That other thing the govt are trying to cut.

Livestock won't work. If the chemicals have left the farm gate in the guise of cereals or livestock it makes no difference. They have to be replaced otherwise everything fails - regardless of the farm having livestock.

The only way to move away from mineral fertiliser is for HMG to recycle human waste. Which would require at the very least admission that HMG don't know what they are doing.

TBH I think they are all nuts.