Autumn manure banned

Humble Village Farmer

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Summer grazing dung dosent do much .
It does something though. I'm just thinking of the arable farm with no livestock, selling straw and maybe a load of grain to be fed elsewhere which could stay on the farm as muck. I'm also thinking about the grass farm buying in straw and feed making silage all summer with a surplus of muck to go on already pretty healthy soils.

It's no silver bullet but it could be a solution to some problems ma
 

Luke Cropwalker

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Currently a farm within an NVZ can spread either slurry or FYM before autumn sown crops. As long as the farmer complies with closed periods then the NVZ regulations are satisfied. If an allowance for the autumn N is made on the spring N top dressed fertiliser then RB209 has been followed, for P&K then as long as indices are monitored and don't get too high then again RB209 is followed.
If the farming rules for water require a justification for autumn N then other than for OSR this is going to be very difficult. If the EA are going to press ahead with enforcing this then a substantial period of adjustment within the industry will be required, only recently the EA themselves have signed off AD plants who will be autumn spreading digestate. Most livestock units and AD plants will now need almost 12 months slurry and FYM storage. I can't see there being enough land made available for spring spreading of all of the biosolids.
In theory a FACTS advisor can recommend something that doesn't follow RB209 as long this can be justified. However, in reality it would be very brave advisor who did this and could potentially end up in court fighting the very deep pockets of the EA.
 

Luke Cropwalker

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The 1st unofficial reports on the review of this rule are starting to filter through and it is not good news. It looks like the EA are not going to play nicely with the farming rules for water. We need to start sending some clear messages back that the whole thing is just ridiculous, I suggest that we start by refusing to accept any more sewage sludge onto farms and tell the suppliers of sludge to come and collect their product that is already stockpiled in fields ready to spread this autumn.
 

RAF

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Yes finally some one with sense . This paying for sludge is ridiculous they should be paying us !! Make um fetch it back . Same as this Astro turf have u seen how much chopped tyre particles are in it . All washed down the river when rains. The whole system is screwed . And it’s only going to get worse
 

An Gof

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The 1st unofficial reports on the review of this rule are starting to filter through and it is not good news. It looks like the EA are not going to play nicely with the farming rules for water. We need to start sending some clear messages back that the whole thing is just ridiculous, I suggest that we start by refusing to accept any more sewage sludge onto farms and tell the suppliers of sludge to come and collect their product that is already stockpiled in fields ready to spread this autumn.

I participated in an NFU webinar on the subject where EA staff/officials presented and took questions. Their whole demeanour I found to be somewhat aggressive. Not much help to a farm that is solely autumn drilled based with no spring crops.
 

Salopian_Will

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B'o'B

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An excerpt from Andrew Watsons bit in the TAG NIAB agronomy update this morning……



The EA also went further and expressed a possible future additional interpretation that all organic manure to land at any time should be banned as it could represent an environmental “risk”.
I do wonder if the EA have been reading too many EU pesticide reports and are confused between the literal meaning of “hazard” and “risk”.


😯😯🙄:poop::X3::scratchhead:
 

holwellcourtfarm

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An excerpt from Andrew Watsons bit in the TAG NIAB agronomy update this morning……



The EA also went further and expressed a possible future additional interpretation that all organic manure to land at any time should be banned as it could represent an environmental “risk”.
I do wonder if the EA have been reading too many EU pesticide reports and are confused between the literal meaning of “hazard” and “risk”.


😯😯🙄:poop::X3::scratchhead:
I wonder what the context of that comment was? Was it made off the cuff by a specific EA staff member or is it an EA policy position? If the latter then they must have a documented explanation for it.

Incidentally, "all organic manure" would include sewage sludge!
 

puppet

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sw scotland
An excerpt from Andrew Watsons bit in the TAG NIAB agronomy update this morning……



The EA also went further and expressed a possible future additional interpretation that all organic manure to land at any time should be banned as it could represent an environmental “risk”.
I do wonder if the EA have been reading too many EU pesticide reports and are confused between the literal meaning of “hazard” and “risk”.


😯😯🙄:poop::X3::scratchhead:
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