Autumn manure banned

Location
N Yorks
I wonder how many people reading this thread now are wondering where they will store slurry if they can't spread till next Feb/March

How many cereal growers will put an end to muck for straw

How many B&B pig finishers will manage to get enough straw for muck to carry on (building those walls high in case you want to store caravans one day is looking like it was a wise move)

How many farmers planning to build more livestock numbers will slam the brakes on

How many contractors will be working out how to do a year's spreading in only 4 months


My guess is we will all get this autumn over with and then work out what to do in subsequent years
 

curlietailz

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Sedgefield
From the EA QA paper:

"16. Applying solid FYM in the spring when growing cereal crops is not very practical.

Organic manure can be applied in the autumn provided there is a soil and crop need or would not give rise to a significant risk of diffuse pollution. Provided the amount of readily available nitrogen in organic manure is low enough not to cause nitrate-nitrogen pollution, then it can be applied."

So as I stated previously providing you don't have high indices and can demonstrate low N leaching FYM is OK in the autumn.


have told the EA that you are going to apply it in autumn
That was in yesterday’s announcement
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
I wonder how many people reading this thread now are wondering where they will store slurry if they can't spread till next Feb/March

How many cereal growers will put an end to muck for straw

How many B&B pig finishers will manage to get enough straw for muck to carry on (building those walls high in case you want to store caravans one day is looking like it was a wise move)

How many farmers planning to build more livestock numbers will slam the brakes on

How many contractors will be working out how to do a year's spreading in only 4 months


My guess is we will all get this autumn over with and then work out what to do in subsequent years

How many contractors are going to park up the spreaders now and lay off the drivers until March!?

More likely how many are just going to press on with spreading as the combine leaves the field and ground is dry.
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
For interest...
I used to machinery swop to get the use of a spreader (now I’ve bought my own), last year it was faulty and I couldn’t slow the bed down, while I was trying to get to grips with how to spread my muck with it (including spreading at 20k) I absolutely plastered a couple of ha ahead of barley. Well I was worried about the loss of muck (I’m always short), harvested my winter r barley about a month ago, that 2 ha was a huge crop so obviously all nutrient doesn’t get washed away and we have had the wettest weather ever since last October 👍
You only have to look where the muck heap was in the field to see how much nutrient DOESN'T get washed away for the following winter crop or spring crop for that matter.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
You only have to look where the muck heap was in the field to see how much nutrient DOESN'T get washed away for the following winter crop or spring crop for that matter.

Good point.
We feed cattle with ring feeders for a couple of months before they come in. Those sites grow like hell for years after👍.
In fact, on the odd poor field of grass, I pretty much use moving ring feeders around as a way of gradual reseeding👍
 

beardface

Member
Location
East Yorkshire
Looks to me like its aimed at slurry and chicken muck. FYM could be applied as long as you take into account N amount the following spring and try spread according to soil map for P and K.

The fact there's a hiatus until next spring makes me wonder if it will ever come to fruition or if its just a scare tactic to see how it affects water quality this autumn/winter.

As for sewage cake it will just get dumped in landfill, which wants it hits social media/countryfile, could be there undoing. Ultimately we have to be wise with our waste products.
 
The arable men will choose to chop the straw and knock the muck for straw on the head

the BnB pig ( and cattle) men will find the homes for their pig and cattle muck difficult to find

they will stop or reduce their numbers

the source of the pigs and cattle will find getting BnB more difficult and they will reduce numbers

the pig and cattle herd will shrink

pork and beef meats will be imported and the arable men will find there is little requirement for their feed grain

will take about 3 years to manifest

( there are other genders available)

Pig and Poultry industry are finished.
 
So you want to apply FYM to a field.

1. Plan to grow osr in field.
2. Spread FYM on field
3. (Sow OSR in field)
4. OSR fails to grow due to CSFB
5. Sow wheat or other cereal.
6. Job’s a good un

You can’t spread FYM at rates about the 5kg N max so you’ll find your spreading rates will be so low it’s pointless and that’s without looking at your P index level.
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
So can i apply ahead of stubble turnips then rather than putting some artificial fert on?
It does look like it.
To be honest having read the FACTS and other responses to this it seems like RPS doesn’t say what they thought it was going to say. Either that or with a natural reading of it doesn’t say what the EA meant it to say. Either way it’s a mess.
 

Wombat

Member
BASIS
Location
East yorks
If you could have justified the fert for crop need then, surely, you can justify the muck?

Thats my thoughts but having read that document i was really not sure if i had to tell them or just pop it on as normal as the turnips will use it

I only have a 1st in engineering so not sure i am of the required standard to decipher an EA rule and communication ........ :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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