- Location
- West Suffolk
As do Anglian water!
Autumn manure banned
- Thread starter l'ordinary bonville
- Start date
As do Anglian water!
- Location
- Yorks
EA say they're going to enforce a rule. Then give a derogation.
Makes one wonder what the point was of expending all the energy.
Makes one wonder what the point was of expending all the energy.
- Location
- West Suffolk
I surmise that they now realise that they decided to enforce the rules at the completely wrong time and without enough staff to enforce it?!
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Does it refer to this Autumn. No mention of a permanent derogation? Need much more clarity on the longer term intentions of EA in so far as enforcement concerned. For this Autumn I suspect many folk would have just got on with it anyway. So a derogation seems reasonable to prevent eg on face as EA are faced with potentially many transgressions. But I am more interested in the longer term intentions.
Something was needed to justify the cost of there new clipboards,
- Location
- Herefordshire
I just don't understand their logic on this ban.In the autumn our drains are dry, after the summer,and rarely start to run until November.In the spring and through to early summer the drains are running after winter/spring rainfall so I would think, logically, autumn would be the best time to apply manure with a definitive cut of date of say October 31st giving time for the crop to absorb the nutrients before winter sets in.Personally I wouldn't allow spreading until,at least the end of April.
Or am I missing something ?
Or am I missing something ?
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Spread ours
prepare for all the winter autumn sown arable producers to go ballistic....
warksfarmer
Member
The Nfu couldn’t sort out a p**s up in a brewery.
- Location
- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
As do United Utilities - for works already programmed
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I wonder what the basis for the derrogation is, and if they will be allowed to use the same reasoning next year
- Location
- East yorks
It’s a real shame they have got one for this year the fallout if none of them could have spread would have been much better than a cop out
- Location
- Lincolnshire
EA only interested in penalising the low hanging fruit. Mr Arkwright with three cows will get the bollocking for spreading one day early whereas watercos will be tipping and spreading on plenty of land. Although I'm sure they never spread before unsuitable weather or on land with already high indicides.
The water boards couldn’t spread above index 3 before all this malarkey kicked off. And they have a louder and unified voice with the EA.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Based on who samples? Farmers? And how many samples per year?
They do their own testing. I have been stopped from using it on certain fields in the past. They are pretty strict about it all.
As above, they do the soil testing for heavy metals & P levels. Usually one sample per field before allocating tonnage to that field.
- Location
- Leicester/England
It does, yes. Although many of those I deal with have low Nitrate-N content so aren't particulalry affected.
- Location
- Leicester/England
I absolutley agree with this.
Here's a few nuggets I've gleaned recently;
MANNER is accurate to +/- 20 kg/ha
A crop of winter wheat will release up to 60kg/ha Nitrate-N when harvested.
The 5kg/ha figure is that which leaches out of old FYM. Nothing more, nothing less and not indicative of at what point Nitrate-N leaches out and causes 'pollution'
As has been mentioned before, the RPS makes use of the word 'significant pollution', that's quite an interesting point for case law I imagine, as to what constitutes 'significant pollution'.... I'm not condoning throwing stuff about willy nilly, but there needs to be a holistic view of the application of manures etc to soils.
- Location
- Leicester/England
They've not got the staff to chase important pollutions, they certainly don't have the staff to wait for a 'pollution' to occur......
GeorgeK
Member
- Location
- Leicestershire
While we get the book thrown at us, water companies have the rules on sewage discharge relaxed due to chemical shortages related to covid and Brexit! Couldn't make it up.
news.sky.com
Rules on waste water discharge eased due to supply shortages linked to Brexit and pandemic
The Environment Agency said some plants may not be able to meet conditions governing the quality of waste water released into ground water or surface water.
news.sky.com