Autumn seed prices
- Thread starter Flat 10
- Start date
- Location
- West Suffolk
How does that work out at £80pt? Wheat is at least £120 for feed? Without dressing, royalties, bags etc?
lloyd
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Royalty on Gleam is over £50 a ton.
Some have been landed with big fines last year .
Some have been landed with big fines last year .
- Location
- North West
£120 retail! it didn’t cost me that to grow it though.
£80/t is for dressing and royalties, I reuse my bags so no cost there.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Royalty on pretty much all wheats is £50 and a bit per ton.
lloyd
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- Location
- Herefordshire
I must have been overpaying the cleaning firms.
The 3 I have used have been around £70 a ton
just to clean and spd .
The 3 I have used have been around £70 a ton
just to clean and spd .
- Location
- Darlington
S2 Kerrin £365 collect from local dresser, they had sold out of Grafton 
bought from another supplier £390 delivered. Steep for variety soon to be off the recommended list but apparently it's in short supply. (Apologies to those who are bored with my Grafton random )
bought from another supplier £390 delivered. Steep for variety soon to be off the recommended list but apparently it's in short supply. (Apologies to those who are bored with my Grafton random )
- Location
- Darlington
What hassle? Two of us and dresser dressed 29t yesterday afternoon with a saving in excess of £150 t it's got to be worth it.
limestone brash
Member
Having cleaners in is a pain
Doing it yourself on a wet day from seed kept in old trailers is ok
Doing it yourself on a wet day from seed kept in old trailers is ok
- Location
- Mid Lincolnshire,UK
Even on a smallish tonnage (sub 15 ton) you can write of half a day minimum, with filling trailers, carrying away from the machine and then stashing away and clearing up. No problem with spring crops as plenty of time but other things to do this time of year.
- Location
- East yorks
We just have 2 old trailers that are only used for seed drag em out the shed, fill em up and then when the cleaners arrive an hour an a half and job done
You still need to look at it as opportunity cost to the business - you could sell that for over £120/t today but can't if you're retaining it.
It's still cheaper than £350-450/t to buy it in, even with costing in the hassle factor of buying C1, treating it differently, segregating it & extra handling. You've got to look at your own logistics and resources as to whether it's worth it or not if you can do something else with that time that makes you more money.
- Location
- North West
The margin isn’t £120 though (at the moment), but as you say it’s has to be factored in to your costings. But generally with wheat seed at around £400/t and I have a couple of spare trailers to leave it sat on until it’s dressed it generally pays to farm save.
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- Location
- West Suffolk
I wonder if farm saved makes more sense on a bigger tonnage? We only need a about 9t to plant our acreage and that would be in 3 varieties. Then they would be split with different dressings too.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Each to their own.
Really depends whether you would stoop down in the gutter to retrieve a £5 note as it is there for the taking, or not bother as have a wallet with plenty of cash, or prefer not to get hand wet, dirty and grubby picking up the mucky old note. If you see what I mean.
Seed growers on here should be endeavouring to emphasise the downsides of this dastardly business of home saving seed!
Really depends whether you would stoop down in the gutter to retrieve a £5 note as it is there for the taking, or not bother as have a wallet with plenty of cash, or prefer not to get hand wet, dirty and grubby picking up the mucky old note. If you see what I mean.
Seed growers on here should be endeavouring to emphasise the downsides of this dastardly business of home saving seed!
- Location
- North West
All my fss has tested as 98% and above germination disease free and grown on black grass free ground, so why would I want to buy seed grown on an unknown farm probably on the other side of the country in a different climate?
Using your analogy, if you can make £10 in other ways in the time you've stooped down to pick up the fiver and wash your hands afterwards & you don't have a wallet anyway....
...Maybe buying in certified seed is better for you. Horses for courses. If you're a big grower and you can save £120/t by saving 100 tonnes of seed (£12k) whose provenance you know then that pays for a fair bit of hassle. A small grower without the infrastructure or a contract farmer with 6 clients who doesn't want to break any rules about transferring home saved seed between growers accounts then this puts a different angle on things.
limestone brash
Member
BSPB standards do not include lack of weeds in the growing crop - they rely on the cleaning to take the weed seed out
Grass weeds are acceptable providing there are less than the permissible number of other wheat varieties
ie you could be buying weedy seed
I know my own seed is weed free
You can’t put a price on that fact alone
Grass weeds are acceptable providing there are less than the permissible number of other wheat varieties
ie you could be buying weedy seed
I know my own seed is weed free
You can’t put a price on that fact alone
- Location
- Darlington
Same here