Avatar/750A in chopped straw

[Brisel]

I see you still sell Aricks cleaners on FMP @Clive . How did you get on with them on your 750A? I don't remember seeing them fitted when you were selling your drill.

 

[Clive]

I see you still sell Aricks cleaners on FMP @Clive . How did you get on with them on your 750A? I don't remember seeing them fitted when you were selling your drill.

They are very good and make a big difference in chopped white straw crop situations - several others on here run them as well like @parker who might comment

They were removed before I sold my drill as I had promised them to someone who really wanted a set but couldn't justify a new set


FMP UK stock is sold out now apart from a few spares for existing buyers, we sold quite a few sets into the UK - if there was enough interest I can talk to Arwicks about getting some more UK stock, it is only really viable if a few sets are shipped together

 

[SilliamWhale]

I need some bushings for the 750 imported that Aricks make so if your doing a stock order I'd order them

 

[Brisel]

IF I choose a 750A, I'd want a set... If...

 

[Simon Chiles]

agree the firming wheel is the magic part on the 750a .................. but the avatar has one as well now that's equally magic

the avatar culter is so similar to the 750a but seemingly designed this century from an engineering and maintenance point of view

JD needs to up their game here to keep their crown IMO a new 750a is long overdue and must surely be on the way now ?

The Pro series opener is quite an improvement on the 90 series. Seed boot is narrower, firming wheel narrower and flexible. It picks up less mud when it’s damp and doesn’t shed the tyre if you turn too tight. The closing wheel arm has two washers instead of one and sits tighter to the coulter. It should eliminate the wear that 90 series got between the nut and washer that allows excessive free movement of the arm and the closing wheel springs to drop off their settings. The closing wheel spring has been improved so that it can run at higher closing wheel pressures and not break as often. The gauge wheel shaft now has a flat machined onto it so that it holds more grease which means that you can grease it less often and is less likely to seize. The best bit is that when you need to rebuild your 90 series opener after it’s done 10,000 acres per metre width you can fit most of the pro series parts and get another life out of it.
If you think JD have stood still I’m afraid you’re mistaken, however I think it’s testament to the original design that unless you’re a bit nerdy ( like me) you probably don’t notice these changes.

 

[tw15]

IF I choose a 750A, I'd want a set... If...

Suite you sir, I say it would suite you sir,??

 

[Clive]

The Pro series opener is quite an improvement on the 90 series. Seed boot is narrower, firming wheel narrower and flexible. It picks up less mud when it’s damp and doesn’t shed the tyre if you turn too tight. The closing wheel arm has two washers instead of one and sits tighter to the coulter. It should eliminate the wear that 90 series got between the nut and washer that allows excessive free movement of the arm and the closing wheel springs to drop off their settings. The closing wheel spring has been improved so that it can run at higher closing wheel pressures and not break as often. The gauge wheel shaft now has a flat machined onto it so that it holds more grease which means that you can grease it less often and is less likely to seize. The best bit is that when you need to rebuild your 90 series opener after it’s done 10,000 acres per metre width you can fit most of the pro series parts and get another life out of it.
If you think JD have stood still I’m afraid you’re mistaken, however I think it’s testament to the original design that unless you’re a bit nerdy ( like me) you probably don’t notice these changes.

not a lot wrong with the JD coulter really other than the west and bearings needed a fair bit of attention - it always worked well for us

where it’s stood still as a machine is simple stuff like the painfully small standard hopper and very old fashioned metering / calibration vs most drills today

I’m sure they will launch something a little more up to date soon - it’s long overdue despite the nice coulter updates

 

[Will Blackburn]

There seems to be a correlation between maintenance required and fertiliser use.

 

[parker]

They are very good and make a big difference in chopped white straw crop situations - several others on here run them as well like @parker who might comment

They were removed before I sold my drill as I had promised them to someone who really wanted a set but couldn't justify a new set


FMP UK stock is sold out now apart from a few spares for existing buyers, we sold quite a few sets into the UK - if there was enough interest I can talk to Arwicks about getting some more UK stock, it is only really viable if a few sets are shipped together

Yes really pleased with the row cleaners, they do the job for me, just moving the area in front of the disc

 

[Brisel]

Yes really pleased with the row cleaners, they do the job for me, just moving the area in front of the disc

Do you use them most of the time?

 

[parker]

Do you use them most of the time?

No, I use them when drilling osr and when drilling into chopped straw, the main thing is to set them so that they are just clearing debris and not soil, otherwise they act like a disc

 

[Brisel]

Thank you. Are they sprung or just use their own weight and angle? Presumably the bolt is an adjustable stop.

 

[Tractor Boy]

No, I use them when drilling osr and when drilling into chopped straw, the main thing is to set them so that they are just clearing debris and not soil, otherwise they act like a disc

Hi Tim
Did you have to grind much of the cylinder stop to let them down properly? Also do you find you have to use the bolt to set the depth rather than just let them run fully down?

 

[Clive]

Thank you. Are they sprung or just use their own weight and angle? Presumably the bolt is an adjustable stop.

they work under their own weight - they only herd to push the straw out the way, you don’t want them going into the soil at all

 

[parker]

Hi Tim
Did you have to grind much of the cylinder stop to let them down properly? Also do you find you have to use the bolt to set the depth rather than just let them run fully down?

hi chris
no I never ground anything off, I found I had plenty of depth because I didn't want to move any soil, they do the job for me just sitting on the top, but yes I do set the depth on the bolt, which does take a little time to do them all individually, but for me they would be to deep to run freely

 

[parker]

Thank you. Are they sprung or just use their own weight and angle? Presumably the bolt is an adjustable stop.

yes under their own weight, controlled on a depth bolt

 

[Tractor Boy]

hi chris
no I never ground anything off, I found I had plenty of depth because I didn't want to move any soil, they do the job for me just sitting on the top, but yes I do set the depth on the bolt, which does take a little time to do them all individually, but for me they would be to deep to run freely

Hi Tim
There is something really odd about the geometry of these. Mine didnt even touch the ground when I started drilling my cover crops back in August. Drill frame was running level. I had to grind half the stop away. I’m hoping they will work now but haven’t drilled anything since and am now wondering if I won’t be able to till spring.

 

[parker]

Hi Tim
There is something really odd about the geometry of these. Mine didnt even touch the ground when I started drilling my cover crops back in August. Drill frame was running level. I had to grind half the stop away. I’m hoping they will work now but haven’t drilled anything since and am now wondering if I won’t be able to till spring.

That is odd I am not running mine anywhere near full depth as they move to much soil, just running on top of the ground and they flick the debris away nicely

 

[H.Jackson]

Thought I was going to have to grind the stops as well but turned out the drill wasn't dead level when I did the test run. With full pressure on the openers the arm may get steep enough to lift them out of work? Will try if I can find a field dry enough to pull into!

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Aricks cleaners seem to be getting good exposure, did anyone look at the Yetter row cleaners? https://www.yetterco.com/products/27-plantermount-row-cleaner-combos