Avian flu Protection Measures in force.

Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by Dealer, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. ski

    ski Member

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    Its the law to shut them in to prevent access to wild birds. They can act as vector to increase they likelihood of a more major outbreak. What would you do if you only kept rams and there was foot and mouth about in the countryside, only being males makes no difference. Get them shut in one way or another. Please.
     
  2. ski

    ski Member

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    It appears to be working and certainly the vets and ministers think so or they would not have extended the housing order so far out. 40 million odd birds were killed or culled in the last US outbreak. It caused havoc to poultry industry in the US and it affected world grain markets as a result.
     
  3. Chickcatcher

    Chickcatcher Member

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    SG9 0RS
    Any ideas of what signs they show, when infected I thought they just Die very fast.
     
  4. ski

    ski Member

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    55degN
    That is normally the first sign that is noticed. A sudden large spike in mortality.
     
  5. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    Now extended until Feb 28th.
     
  6. Pasty

    Pasty Member

    Location:
    Devon
    Swelling of the face and neck discolouration plus drop in laying (difficult to tell for most small keepers at this time of year).
     
  7. Grassman

    Grassman Member

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    Derbyshire
    A woman locally has still got all her poultry and geese etc out.
    She works at a vets and actually shared the control extention on Facebook yesterday!
    There's no hope!
     
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  8. Lincs Lass

    Lincs Lass Member

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    north lincs
    Local collective auction is selling all sorts of live birds this morning
     
  9. Grassman

    Grassman Member

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    Derbyshire
    Surely that's illegal?
     
  10. Lincs Lass

    Lincs Lass Member

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    Well out of the exclusion zone
     

  11. I've read through the website again, and found the bit I read on the 6th Dec...
    "The zones require the immediate and compulsory housing of domestic chickens, hens, turkeys and ducks, or where this is not practical, their complete separation from contact with wild birds. For farmed geese, gamebirds and other captive birds, keepers should take practical steps to keep these birds separate from wild birds."


    Now my geese would technically be 'farmed' I assume?


    I'm concerned that locking them up will be detrimental to their health.

    If it was chickens I would have locked them up straight away...
     
  12. llamedos

    llamedos Staff Member

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  13. llamedos

    llamedos Staff Member

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    Last updated 05 January 2017


    Avian Influenza (AI) is a highly contagious viral disease affecting the respiratory, digestive and/or nervous system of many species of birds.



    Latest situation - Case near Pontyberem, Carmarthenshire, January 2017
    The Chief Veterinary Officer for Wales has confirmed Avian Influenza H5N8 in a back yard flock of chickens and ducks on a premises near Pontyberem, Carmarthenshire.

    Prior to confirmation it was decided to cull the birds on strong suspicion of disease.

    A 3 km Protection Zone and 10 km Surveillance Zone have been put in place around the infected premises, to limit the risk of the disease spreading and as part of the wider surveillance and disease control measures.

    The Declaration is provided below, which sets out the measures to be adhered to within the Zones. The interactive map (external link) will help you find out if you live within any restriction zones, and will continue to be updated to reflect the current position.

    Avian Influenza Prevention Zone Extended to 28 February
    The Avian Influenza Prevention Zone declared by the Welsh Ministers on 6 December 2016 will remain in place until 28 February 2017. The zone covers the whole of Wales and a copy of the declaration is available below. This means extra biosecurity measures for all poultry and captive birds to protect them from the risk from wild birds.

    The zone requires the immediate and compulsory housing of domestic chickens, hens, turkeys and ducks, or where this is not practical, their complete separation from contact with wild birds. For farmed geese, gamebirds and other captive birds, keepers should take practical steps to keep these birds separate from wild birds.

    AI is a disease of birds. Humans can become infected but rarely are. There are many strains of AI viruses which vary in their ability to cause disease. AI viruses are categorised according to their ability to cause severe disease in bird species. There are:

    • Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI) viruses (HPAI)
    • Low Pathogenic Avian Influenza (LPAI) viruses.
    Some strains of HPAI can spread easily and quickly between birds in poultry populations and cause severe disease, with a high death rate.

    A risk to the global human population may be posed by a new influenza virus that significantly differs from recent or existing strains of human influenza viruses. Therefore, any outbreak of AI must be controlled quickly. Anyone that works in close contact with infected birds must be well protected. Contingency plans are in place to ensure this can be achieved.

    It is vital that all bird keepers continue to practice the highest levels of biosecurity and be vigilant for any signs of disease. If you are concerned about the health of your birds you should seek advice from your veterinary surgeon. If you suspect that your birds have AI, you should report it to your local Animal and Plant Health Agency office.

    Gatherings of Poultry Suspended
    A Risk Assessment on the likelihood of spread of avian notifiable disease associated with bird gatherings has been prepared by the Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA).

    In consideration of the assessment, the Cabinet Secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs, Lesley Griffiths has announced a further precautionary measure with the introduction of a temporary suspension on gatherings of some species of birds in Wales.

    The ban on gatherings applies to poultry, including chickens, turkeys, ducks and geese, and restricts events such as fairs, markets, shows, sales or exhibitions. Similar bans have been introduced in England and Scotland, ensuring a consistent GB approach.

    The ban does not apply to pigeons or aviary birds which present a much lower risk of passing the disease to domestic poultry. These arrangements will be kept under review and may be lifted or amended if the risk level changes.

    The General Licence for bird gatherings has been amended to reflect this. Keepers of Poultry and other captive birds should familiarise themselves with the new licence which is available on the Bird gatherings and advice page.


    Source Welsh Gov
     
  14. Pasty

    Pasty Member

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    Devon
    So the time has come where you are not going to not be allowed to keep half a dozen hens in your back garden due to the 'threat to the industry'. I assume this is the same industry which creates these diseases in the first place as people have kept chickens for thousands of years and it's only the dawn of the dark sheds which have brought this on. Previous outbreaks may have occurred but they would have died out fairly quickly. Now the man with 10 million hens in a shed is crapping himself that maybe that's not a good idea if they all get culled.

    It's not 'important' to have 3 for a tenner chickens in Tesco. It's taking the pee out of nature and nature is telling us so. As usual 'the industry' will point the finger at the little guys and call them reckless. But we can't see it.

    I will add that I have complied by all the guidance at some considerable expense but it still really hacks me off. 'Farming' is green grass not bloody great sheds.
     
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  15. country_gal

    country_gal Member

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    Scotland
    Mine are shut in and HATING it!
     
  16. Paddington

    Paddington Member

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    Soggy Shropshire
    Same thing happened in the 2007 (?) outbreak. The big poultry keepers wanted restrictions put in place for anyone wanting to keep a few hens similar to those keeping sheep etc with inspections, movement regulations etc.
     
  17. Fleeced

    Fleeced Member

    My geese are inside. They are happier than the chickens, but they didn't forage anything like the distance the chickens do.
     
  18. spin cycle

    spin cycle Member

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    north norfolk
    not wanting to throw stones ect.....but what about shooting?....think about it....driving birds out of woods....stressing/dispersing them....wounding them.....surely riskier than a few chucks in the garden?
     
  19. Fleeced

    Fleeced Member

    They are counting released pheasants as wild birds, even when they are being fed. Seems ridiculous to me.
     
  20. If they stop the shoots, then there will be more birds continuing to wander around. Driving them over guns probably makes little difference.

    Either way there's only a couple more weeks of shooting left anyway.
     

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