Back filling drains

YELROM

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
We have dug out a bad wet spot in a field down to about 10ft that i think is a spring of some sort.
To get to the depth we have had to tier the trench down, the trench to the drain we are connecting to is about 100mtr long
I want to cover the pipe so i don't damage/flatten it when back filling it, but with it being tiered down it won't be easy to put stone on and i don't think it needs stone on from a drainage point of view
I am sure i have read somewhere about someone covering drainage pipe with straw or have i dreamt this:unsure:
Is this a good idea or will it just decompose and block the drain
I seem to think it might of been @Badshot or on one of your posts about drainage:scratchhead:
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
We have dug out a bad wet spot in a field down to about 10ft that i think is a spring of some sort.
To get to the depth we have had to tier the trench down, the trench to the drain we are connecting to is about 100mtr long
I want to cover the pipe so i don't damage/flatten it when back filling it, but with it being tiered down it won't be easy to put stone on and i don't think it needs stone on from a drainage point of view
I am sure i have read somewhere about someone covering drainage pipe with straw or have i dreamt this:unsure:
Is this a good idea or will it just decompose and block the drain
I seem to think it might of been @Badshot or on one of your posts about drainage:scratchhead:
Yeh, all our drains in the grant days were done with straw.
Biggest mistake ever made.
It is now just pipes in soil, it may have helped filter fines out while the soil restructured, that's all.
If it had been done with gravel I'd now have a bloody good system that could be moled across properly.

Laid a 6 inch perforated drain, in a wide trench, covered with straw, it's now collapsed and is useless.
Should have used twinwall
 

Hilly

Member
We have dug out a bad wet spot in a field down to about 10ft that i think is a spring of some sort.
To get to the depth we have had to tier the trench down, the trench to the drain we are connecting to is about 100mtr long
I want to cover the pipe so i don't damage/flatten it when back filling it, but with it being tiered down it won't be easy to put stone on and i don't think it needs stone on from a drainage point of view
I am sure i have read somewhere about someone covering drainage pipe with straw or have i dreamt this:unsure:
Is this a good idea or will it just decompose and block the drain
I seem to think it might of been @Badshot or on one of your posts about drainage:scratchhead:
Yes straw works
 

A Trebor

Member
Location
Isle of Axholme
Straw used here when suffs put in by hand. Always told the straw rots away and leaves a small void above pipes for water to collect in and get to joins in suffs. First suff to run here was put in in 1953 with straw above so must be some truth in it.
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
Straw used here when suffs put in by hand. Always told the straw rots away and leaves a small void above pipes for water to collect in and get to joins in suffs. First suff to run here was put in in 1953 with straw above so must be some truth in it.
I've dug enough up now to know there's no void above the pipes.
Someone tried telling me it wouldn't rot as it's anaerobic that deep, until I pointed out there a 4 inch pipe running oxygen along its entire length.

There is no substitute for stone, or I suppose aggregate of some description, plastic or glass pebbles/granules would do the same.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
Who was it who said go high and dig deep ?
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Tim s

Member
Location
Scotland
We have dug out a bad wet spot in a field down to about 10ft that i think is a spring of some sort.
To get to the depth we have had to tier the trench down, the trench to the drain we are connecting to is about 100mtr long
I want to cover the pipe so i don't damage/flatten it when back filling it, but with it being tiered down it won't be easy to put stone on and i don't think it needs stone on from a drainage point of view
I am sure i have read somewhere about someone covering drainage pipe with straw or have i dreamt this:unsure:
Is this a good idea or will it just decompose and block the drain
I seem to think it might of been @Badshot or on one of your posts about drainage:scratchhead:
Off the wall maybe but according to TFF there is heaps of wool worth F/A lying around might be worth a shot
 

Tractor Tim

Member
Arable Farmer
Always got told straw was to help get the worms working around the pipe and trench which kinda makes sense to me not a great deal of use in this situation. Can you safely collapse the trench by hand or put some finer spoil on first with digger
 

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