Bailey flat deck low loader

[davedb]

What about a tilt bed? Constant angle to track your crawler ect up

 

[fiatf130]

How about 1 from a and w engineering. Flat trailer with hydraulic lowered beaver tail and extending ramp means shallow ramp angle, short rear overhang and no manual handling of ramps.

 

[homefarm]

When you get stopped and checked ,they check the axle weighs as well as the gross weight.

Our pickup was not 13% in total overweight but the front axle was.
Looking at Clives picture he could be under 18.29 gross but overloaded on the drawbar /pickup hook.

Everything is included, driver, passengers, fuel, straps, if you look at HGVs they look to save weight in the trailers using aluminium and have onboard weighers so they do not overload. They have to take it seriously so should we.

A 24ft twin axle will legally carry more than a 36ft tri axle behind any tractor because it will be about a tonne less unladen.

 

[Andrew]

As said above, 18.29t is your maximum trailer weight behind a tractor on public roads. End of. No exceptions.

We have a Kane hydraulic beavertail, it's good but wish we'd waited a few more years and had a Stewart. Build quality is better. Larrington ones also look good.

The axles are further forward, but assuming you have a uniformly distributed load, this actually helps stability and helps you get in gateways. The only downside is you lose some grip in muddy fields.

 

[GFA]

Can put a 10 ton tractor on front it's already illegal because max trailer gross weight is just over 18ton tractor size has nothing to do with it. Can these flat bed trailers not be specced with air suspension and drop the air when your loading

Yes that's what I was meaning the trailer would be over the legal weight. And yes tractor weight is arevelant now the law has changed.

 

[Fendt516profi]

When you get stopped and checked ,they check the axle weighs as well as the gross weight.

Our pickup was not 13% in total overweight but the front axle was.
Looking at Clives picture he could be under 18.29 gross but overloaded on the drawbar /pickup hook.

Everything is included, driver, passengers, fuel, straps, if you look at HGVs they look to save weight in the trailers using aluminium and have onboard weighers so they do not overload. They have to take it seriously so should we.

A 24ft twin axle will legally carry more than a 36ft tri axle behind any tractor because it will be about a tonne less unladen.

He hasn't strapped it on so I assume he just drove it on then got out to lift the beaver up and took photo then back it back abit. I was told you shouldn't have any weight on beaver tail when you lift it till you've got it up and locked

 

[Tomr10]

As said above, 18.29t is your maximum trailer weight behind a tractor on public roads. End of. No exceptions.

We have a Kane hydraulic beavertail, it's good but wish we'd waited a few more years and had a Stewart. Build quality is better. Larrington ones also look good.

The axles are further forward, but assuming you have a uniformly distributed load, this actually helps stability and helps you get in gateways. The only downside is you lose some grip in muddy fields.

Hind sight

 

[Andrew]

He hasn't strapped it on so I assume he just drove it on then got out to lift the beaver up and took photo then back it back abit. I was told you shouldn't have any weight on beaver tail when you lift it till you've got it up and locked

What make is yours? In Kanes promo video they park an industrial forklift on the tail then lift it up.

 

[benny6910]

Sorry to jump in on somebody else’s thread but how do people find the ride quality of bailey lowloaders? I am looking at a secondhand one but I had a friend that bought a new bailey and they said the ride quality wasn’t very good, they said it felt unstable compared to his old Irish built trailer? I have a irish built one now and I’ve never felt like it has been unstable on the road.

 

[Fendt516profi]

What make is yours? In Kanes promo video they park an industrial forklift on the tail then lift it up.

Don't have one. Was just told that it's not the advised way. Lots of videos of stuff been done but doesn't mean it's right or safe way. Get away with something 99 out of 100 times but it's just that 1 time when something goes wrong

 

[Andrew]

Don't have one. Was just told that it's not the advised way. Lots of videos of stuff been done but doesn't mean it's right or safe way. Get away with something 99 out of 100 times but it's just that 1 time when something goes wrong

Part of the machinery directive is you can’t publicise a product doing something it’s not designed to do. So if a manufacturer is advertising it, it should be OK. Also doesn’t state anywhere in the book not to do it. Other manufacturers may use a different, weaker design though.

 

[Banana Bar]

What if you have twin beacons and a light bar

You’re officially a legend and no law applies to you.

 

[shumungus]

What make is yours? In Kanes promo video they park an industrial forklift on the tail then lift it up.

Our Kane has never refused to lift anything yet. When up there is a mechanical lock and both rams are fitted with check valves.

 

[Fendt516profi]

You’re officially a legend and no law applies to you.

Ahhh I only have twin beacons? and they spend alot of the time folded down so the don't get hit on trees

 

[Banana Bar]

Ahhh I only have twin beacons[emoji21] and they spend alot of the time folded down so the don't get hit on trees

Amateur

 

[James]

What make is yours? In Kanes promo video they park an industrial forklift on the tail then lift it up.

saw a video of Philip Watkins one earlier and it showed the same with a jcb teletruck

 

[Simon Chiles]

Evening chaps, I appreciate this thread is a few years old but would either of you be able to comment on how you get on with your flat deck low loaders. We’ve been to Bailey today (very impressive set up) thinking we wanted a beavertail with wedge but have come away thinking and being advised from Bailey that for what we need a flat deck with ramps would be better. We will mainly be using as a flat bed for moving seed and fert about, we want the ability to put a small telehandler on the back with 14t of seed/fert on the front when drilling/fert spinning further away from base and then Occasional use as a low loader for moving 8 - 13t diggers, droits and occasionally a challenger 765 plus mounted drill about. I like the idea my only concern is ramp angle with the 3.5m ally ramps compared to a beavertail, but I like the idea of not having ramps on the back that restricts having any small over hang should it be needed! Had a look at a Kane hydraulic beavertail but the quality and finish seemed nowhere near the Bailey and very steep ramp angle! Any thoughts/comments would be much appreciated! Many thanks

I’ve got a Bailey flat bed trailer with ramps although mine’s the 15t version. We use it mainly for carting hay, straw fertiliser and seed about. Occasionally we use it for carting tractors and excavators about. It seamed the best option for us as it’s use was mainly as a flat bed. We’ve loaded only small excavators up until now, one was a 5 tonne machine with a tilt rotator ( a heavy bit of kit on that size machine ) and in was fine up and down the ramps, they don’t feel steep at all. Good build quality, excellent brakes, lights up like a Christmas tree and turned up two months earlier than they said it would.

 

[Wheels88]

Just to update, after much thought we ended up ordering it with a beavertail and hydraulic ramps, it will be doing a fair bit of low loader work and when running fert and seed about the loader will be going on the back so we thought man handling heavy ally ramps when on our own could become tedious, especially when we found out the weight of the ramps required to get a 16t crawler up safely!
Trailer turned up today (bang on when they said it would) and really pleased with the finish and build quality, we struck a good deal on a few extras that Bailey advised such as pull out markers/Beacons for moving the crawler about, singles instead of twins, hydraulic ramps, mudguards and few other bits and after seeing the finished article today I’m pleased we did, it’s a trailer we plan to keep for a very long time and it’s exactly as we hoped! Bailey also did a cool thing with removable sidebars down either side for moving bags about, I just asked for a few posts down either side to thread a strap through to stop bags toppling off and having to use loads of straps but they have definitely gone further and beyond with this, for the small cost we agreed for a few posts I’m very impressed and will post a few pictures when I get a chance. For the money I’m very happy!

 

[Tomr10]

Just to update, after much thought we ended up ordering it with a beavertail and hydraulic ramps, it will be doing a fair bit of low loader work and when running fert and seed about the loader will be going on the back so we thought man handling heavy ally ramps when on our own could become tedious, especially when we found out the weight of the ramps required to get a 16t crawler up safely!
Trailer turned up today (bang on when they said it would) and really pleased with the finish and build quality, we struck a good deal on a few extras that Bailey advised such as pull out markers/Beacons for moving the crawler about, singles instead of twins, hydraulic ramps, mudguards and few other bits and after seeing the finished article today I’m pleased we did, it’s a trailer we plan to keep for a very long time and it’s exactly as we hoped! Bailey also did a cool thing with removable sidebars down either side for moving bags about, I just asked for a few posts down either side to thread a strap through to stop bags toppling off and having to use loads of straps but they have definitely gone further and beyond with this, for the small cost we agreed for a few posts I’m very impressed and will post a few pictures when I get a chance. For the money I’m very happy!

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[Wheels88]

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Will get some pics the next couple of days