Bales...a step back...for safety.

[glasshouse]

can you buy a grab that lifts them from the end by side squeezing so i can collect them without having to bounce over tramlines?

 

[glasshouse]

Sorry, nothing to do with the original post. On one of the local dairies they were mixing feed one weekend, the two guys didn't want to do the extra work of using the loader tractor, so they pulled the mixer next to the bale stack and proceeded to push the bale (six string, big pack, hesston whatever you guys call it) in by hand while the mixer was running. Nobody knows exactly what happened, but the stack collapsed and one guy ended up on the ground with a bale on top of him, dead from a broken neck. And when the farmer eventually got there, all they could find of the other guy was little pieces of his clothing in the mixer, which was still running.

extra work with loader?

 

[Nearly]

can you buy a grab that lifts them from the end by side squeezing so i can collect them without having to bounce over tramlines?

Fit a bump bar to front of weight block? Knock them through 90 degrees?

 

[glasshouse]

Fit a bump bar to front of weight block? Knock them through 90 degrees?

manitou doesnt have a weight block

 

[glasshouse]

looks like i will need to make one

 

[MB Trac]

extra work with loader?

Yes, they were too lazy to go get the loader to load the bales into the mixer.

 

[glasshouse]

Yes, they were too lazy to go get the loader to load the bales into the mixer.

If that happened here the farmer would be in jail.

 

[steveR]

My point is with a cris crossed stack which is safe and vertical they wouldn’t be able to get up there in the first place, I know what I will be doing but that’s just my opinion!

Totally agree with you. I am also gobsmacked when I see the straw contractors stacking piles in a field for later collection, 8 high and do not take the time cross stack and bind the stack together properly!

And too many times, 3-4 days later, the ends of the field stack are on the floor as the stack was not stable. Bloody stupid and lazy, especially on fields where the public have access on footpaths and the like.

Cross stacking of bales was something I was taught 45 years ago when stacking trailers of conventional bales as a student (I was also taught a proper wagoners knot!!). When I came here in 1976, no one knew how to do either and used to lose the arse of loads on a regular basis When I had them, I also cross stack D1000 bales on trailers, which make for a safer carry without a mile of straps...!

 

[glasshouse]

Totally agree with you. I am also gobsmacked when I see the straw contractors stacking piles in a field for later collection, 8 high and do not take the time cross stack and bind the stack together properly!

And too many times, 3-4 days later, the ends of the field stack are on the floor as the stack was not stable. Bloody stupid and lazy, especially on fields where the public have access on footpaths and the like.

Cross stacking of bales was something I was taught 45 years ago when stacking trailers of conventional bales as a student (I was also taught a proper wagoners knot!!). When I came here in 1976, no one knew how to do either and used to lose the arse of loads on a regular basis When I had them, I also cross stack D1000 bales on trailers, which make for a safer carry without a mile of straps...![/QUOTE Cross stacvking is not always possible, and is much slower compared to lifting four or five bales at once.

 

[steveR]

Cross stacvking is not always possible, and is much slower compared to lifting four or five bales at once.

With respect, that was not what was being discussed in the OP and subsequently!

As Cab-over Pete here pointed out, Safety and Efficiency (aka speed of job) do not necessarily go hand in hand...

 

[glasshouse]

Two kiwis that worked for me went down south to work at mobile seed dressing.
At one farm they were told to set up next to a big stack of hesstons. While they were working, the stack fell on them, smashed the girls face into the ground and broke her leg, the bloke just got knocked over.

 

[7610 super q]

Hate to disagree with Andrew, from Yorkshire, but I prefer to stack rounds, as nature intended, as they come out of the baler... never understood the idea of stacking cotton reel fashion. My heart sinks when wagon drivers want them stacked like that, worse still when it's a mixture....first 2 rows cotton reel, then top row normal.
Stacked like this, with a step in every so often, they can't topple.

This is daft, but the customer is always right......

 

[7610 super q]

And this is a bit silly.....

 

[glasshouse]

Stacking on the can is the best way, you can put 3 on the lorry at once and they dont go out of shape

 

[steveR]

And this is a bit silly.....

Daft, if you stack both courses on ends, you get another 4 bales/load, but like that, no different to loading them on the round!

 

[simmy_bull]

Hate to disagree with Andrew, from Yorkshire, but I prefer to stack rounds, as nature intended, as they come out of the baler... never understood the idea of stacking cotton reel fashion. My heart sinks when wagon drivers want them stacked like that, worse still when it's a mixture....first 2 rows cotton reel, then top row normal.
Stacked like this, with a step in every so often, they can't topple.
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This is daft, but the customer is always right......

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If shed space is at a premium you’ll get more in a shed cotton reel fashion. I always stack my straw like that.

 

[ollie989898]

And this is a bit silly.....

Why the fudge would you do that on a trailer? Front and rear laides, stacked on the sides, they are near 'self locking'.

Stacking in a shed, I can see the sense in stacking on their ends like cotton reels, so long as you are careful and step them in they are plenty stable enough. Of course, you would get more in a shed if they were square bales but that is a different matter.

 

[marco]

You can step in if you like with rounds on their flat

 

[steveR]

Two kiwis that worked for me went down south to work at mobile seed dressing.
At one farm they were told to set up next to a big stack of hesstons. While they were working, the stack fell on them, smashed the girls face into the ground and broke her leg, the bloke just got knocked over.

Bloody hell, not good at all...

 

[glasshouse]

Why the fudge would you do that on a trailer? Front and rear laides, stacked on the sides, they are near 'self locking'.

Stacking in a shed, I can see the sense in stacking on their ends like cotton reels, so long as you are careful and step them in they are plenty stable enough. Of course, you would get more in a shed if they were square bales but that is a different matter.

Trailer is lying accross the hill, thats a no no