Bales and tub feeder wagons.

kill

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South West
What's the good, bad and ugly and why please?
I have round bale silage, round whole top and fooder beet to feed along troughs so what's best?
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Bales and tub feeder wagons don't mix.

Bales belong in a feed ring. Wastes far too much diesel separating them.
Sounds like you need to have a word with the baler operator :whistle:

The knives need to be kept sharp, just like in a forage wagon. I'm well impressed with the bales out of mine. Chopped to 3 inches, they'll disintegrate with a gentle shake of the loader, but still be tight enough to be placed into a ring (or in my case the straw blower).

Bales properly made will also have bugger all air in them, improving quality and all but eliminating spoilage.

Or is 3 inches too long for a tub mixer to cope with? :eek:
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Sounds like you need to have a word with the baler operator :whistle:

The knives need to be kept sharp, just like in a forage wagon. I'm well impressed with the bales out of mine. Chopped to 3 inches, they'll disintegrate with a gentle shake of the loader, but still be tight enough to be placed into a ring (or in my case the straw blower).

Bales properly made will also have bugger all air in them, improving quality and all but eliminating spoilage.

Or is 3 inches too long for a tub mixer to cope with? :eek:

Did chopped bales for a winter in mixer. Then put in a silage pit.

Still make a fair few silage bales but all go in feeders.
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Did chopped bales for a winter in mixer. Then put in a silage pit.

Still make a fair few silage bales but all go in feeders.


Yeah but big difference between brands of baler, as well as sharp and blunt knives.

Not everybody can casually afford to just go out and build a silage pit because the makes they've tried poorly made bales.

Doesn't mean baling doesn't have its place.
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
I forgot, the pallets of plastic and netwrap I used to buy every year and then burn were free.

Be interesting to see what happens with plastic tax now everyone got a bee in there bonnet aboutit.
Was doing the costings with a neighbour between contract self propelled and contract baling just last week. On 150 acres baling worked out just shy of £2k a year less expensive than the pit (which he already has). He's planning buying a wrapper for further saving, and which will also create revenue by contracting with it.

With a modern chopper baler pickup up tedded and raked grass, the stuff in them is near the same as a forage wagon.





But aye the powers that be could easily bugger all that up in the future if they start buzzing about the plastic :banghead:
 

had e nuff

Member
Location
Durham
Was doing the costings with a neighbour between contract self propelled and contract baling just last week. On 150 acres baling worked out just shy of £2k a year less expensive than the pit (which he already has). He's planning buying a wrapper for further saving, and which will also create revenue by contracting with it.

With a modern chopper baler pickup up tedded and raked grass, the stuff in them is near the same as a forage wagon.





But aye the powers that be could easily bugger all that up in the future if they start buzzing about the plastic :banghead:
But you can have 150 acres pitted and covered in 2 days. Takes people around here half the summer to bale and wrap that amount. Plus in winter it's far nicer jumping on tractor with shear grab than handling wet smelly plastic. We do both and i know which i prefer.
 

DrDunc

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
But you can have 150 acres pitted and covered in 2 days. Takes people around here half the summer to bale and wrap that amount. Plus in winter it's far nicer jumping on tractor with shear grab than handling wet smelly plastic. We do both and i know which i prefer.
Yeah, it's 150 organic acres, so it can be done in a day :rolleyes:

Depends whether you're happy watching the contractor with all his expensive machinery for a day, or whether you'd rather have that money in your own pocket for doing a few days work...

That money buys things that make you more money (or reduces your loss if you're organic :whistle::bag:) and pays for a lot of boxes of nitrile gloves for your hands :D

Each to their own, but chopped bales out of a modern baler with sharp knives just fall apart in a tub mixer, and unless the pressure has been backed off to increase the bale count, they're brick hard with no air to cause spoilage.
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
Yeah, it's 150 organic acres, so it can be done in a day :rolleyes:

Depends whether you're happy watching the contractor with all his expensive machinery for a day, or whether you'd rather have that money in your own pocket for doing a few days work...

That money buys things that make you more money (or reduces your loss if you're organic :whistle::bag:) and pays for a lot of boxes of nitrile gloves for your hands :D

Each to their own, but chopped bales out of a modern baler with sharp knives just fall apart in a tub mixer, and unless the pressure has been backed off to increase the bale count, they're brick hard with no air to cause spoilage.
Does your man have tractors? Why not trailed forager and pickup straight out of mower swaths saves huge amount on tedding raking. We already have trailers for grain carting though. clamp silage doesn't have to be expensive it's just the gangs with all new shiny machinery that makes it expensive
 

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