Bank governor in 'apocalyptic' warning over rising food prices

toquark

Member
:ROFLMAO: don't give much away do you! Wondering if planning would let me put panels on traditional farm buildings within curtilage of listed house... :unsure:
Roughly speaking it'll be a £20k install price for a system which should meet most of our domestic requirements. You have to factor in that the battery will last about 10 years and the solar panels 25, so you'll need at least two batteries at approx £4k during the lifecycle of the system, along with a new inverter from the solar panels as they only last 10 years or so too. So in total you're looking at around £25-30k for a system which should last 25 years. Our annual electricity bill a year ago was around £1500, today it'll be around £2300, in October it'll be over around £3k. So at those prices its about a ten year payback plus security of your own supply.

Performance of the batteries and panels reduce over time, so you need to consider building in some extra capacity or accepting a reduction over that period. What I like about it it is that its very simple. Unlike wind turbines/heat pumps/biomasses etc., its a very proven technology which just works away, no pumps, no motors, no valves, no water pipes, no boreholes. Just panels, wired to an inverter, to a battery and into the consumer unit.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Roughly speaking it'll be a £20k install price for a system which should meet most of our domestic requirements. You have to factor in that the battery will last about 10 years and the solar panels 25, so you'll need at least two batteries at approx £4k during the lifecycle of the system, along with a new inverter from the solar panels as they only last 10 years or so too. So in total you're looking at around £25-30k for a system which should last 25 years. Our annual electricity bill a year ago was around £1500, today it'll be around £2300, in October it'll be over around £3k. So at those prices its about a ten year payback plus security of your own supply.

Performance of the batteries and panels reduce over time, so you need to consider building in some extra capacity or accepting a reduction over that period. What I like about it it is that its very simple. Unlike wind turbines/heat pumps/biomasses etc., its a very proven technology which just works away, no pumps, no motors, no valves, no water pipes, no boreholes. Just panels, wired to an inverter, to a battery and into the consumer unit.
how much juice is that on the nicest sunny day? (genuine question....i'm behind the curve, but thinking much the same)
 

DRC

Member
Well done Ed Davey. House of commons question time now asking Boris about agriculture.
He’s been out in North Shropshire with our new MP Helen Morgan, who acknowledged my email a while ago about food security and raised my question directly in parliament . They visited local farms, especially pig and chicken producers and seem genuinely concerned about the lack of concern shown by the government .
certainly had more contact and interest than from the previous incumbent Owen Patterson, who couldn’t be bothered to reply to emails.
 

kfpben

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Location
Mid Hampshire
Ed Davey has been coached in agriculture recently by Stuart Roberts ex NFU deputy President. They visited a few farms near here the other week.

I confess I had a phone call out of the blue from a neighbouring farmer asking if ‘Ed Davey could do a farm visit tomorrow’.
My first response was ‘Is Ed Davey the new milk powder rep?’
 

Huno

Member
Arable Farmer
What a nice chap to take over from Neil Parish... i wonder if Boris and Carrie will throw him under a russian tank track next?? Mmmm
 

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