Basagran - crop damage

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Crops & Agronomy' started by Fuzzy, May 21, 2018.

  1. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    Seen some crop damage (black leaves) after applying Basagran to Beans. I didn't realise it was a hot product !!
     
  2. phil

    phil Member

    Location:
    Wexford
    What rate?
     
  3. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    3 litres/ ha (of Troy480)
     
  4. Badshot

    Badshot Member

    Location:
    Kent
    Yes troy (or any similar product) can scorch the beans, that's why it has to be done pre flowering or you knacker the flowers
     
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  5. 3 l is full rate and can have a big crop effect
    for spring beans I prefer 1.5 l then again if weed a problem but i am notill later planted which often has very few weeds
     
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  6. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    My DD Winter beans weed free, but these are customers full cultivation and lots of blw. worst field is 3 acres with lots of unavoidable spray overlaps !!!
     
  7. Tractor Boy

    Tractor Boy Member

    Location:
    Suffolk
    Basagran was one of the products that in the past you were advised to do a crystal violet test for to check the peas or beans had enough wax on them before using it. The pulse crop relies on its waxy leaf to stop the basagran causing it damamge.
     
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  8. phil

    phil Member

    Location:
    Wexford
    locally they use a 1/4 or 1/3 rate twice with an oil on a warm sunny evening
    maybe week to 10 days apart with good success

    with moon already visible in the evening sky helps too
     
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  9. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    I used 2 l/ha Troy 480 plus 1 l/ha methylated oil on a hot day & ticked the crop up a bit. My agronomist advised to do it on a warm day to improve the efficiacy. It certainly toasted the small weeds but I am nervous about the big creeping thistles on the headlands that look hard hit but are starting to show regrowth in the growing point.
     
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  10. I have used 1.5 litres oil after a sharp may frost

    Very effective on the weeds moderate damage on the beans which recovered

    With notill beans not planted till April the weeds can be non existent and the beans grow quickly
    In a weedy field split dose is preferred
     
  11. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    How far apart do you do the splits?
     
  12. Depends on how good the first spray goes on and the weed burden
    Small early weeds took out early on bad charlock fields
    If the first one does a good job and there is no rain to germinate any more the second can wait or be missed
    Grass weed spray may need to be fitted in
     
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  13. 3 litres is going to touch the crop up. Split the dose in case you get weeds emerging in flushes.

    Best applied to small weeds as early as you can and definitely don't look at the crop for a week afterwards. First time I ever used it in beans I took the advice from too many people and did the oil as well. Farmer did it and I looked at the crop sneakily about 10 days later then wished I hadn't. In fairness the crop recovered well.
     

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