Basagran - crop damage

[Fuzzy]

Seen some crop damage (black leaves) after applying Basagran to Beans. I didn't realise it was a hot product !!

 

[phil]

What rate?

 

[Fuzzy]

What rate?

3 litres/ ha (of Troy480)

 

[Badshot]

Yes troy (or any similar product) can scorch the beans, that's why it has to be done pre flowering or you knacker the flowers

 

[yellow belly]

3 l is full rate and can have a big crop effect
for spring beans I prefer 1.5 l then again if weed a problem but i am notill later planted which often has very few weeds

 

[Fuzzy]

3 l is full rate and can have a big crop effect
for spring beans I prefer 1.5 l then again if weed a problem but i am notill later planted which often has very few weeds

My DD Winter beans weed free, but these are customers full cultivation and lots of blw. worst field is 3 acres with lots of unavoidable spray overlaps !!!

 

[Tractor Boy]

Basagran was one of the products that in the past you were advised to do a crystal violet test for to check the peas or beans had enough wax on them before using it. The pulse crop relies on its waxy leaf to stop the basagran causing it damamge.

 

[phil]

locally they use a 1/4 or 1/3 rate twice with an oil on a warm sunny evening
maybe week to 10 days apart with good success

with moon already visible in the evening sky helps too

 

[Brisel]

I used 2 l/ha Troy 480 plus 1 l/ha methylated oil on a hot day & ticked the crop up a bit. My agronomist advised to do it on a warm day to improve the efficiacy. It certainly toasted the small weeds but I am nervous about the big creeping thistles on the headlands that look hard hit but are starting to show regrowth in the growing point.

 

[yellow belly]

I have used 1.5 litres oil after a sharp may frost

Very effective on the weeds moderate damage on the beans which recovered

With notill beans not planted till April the weeds can be non existent and the beans grow quickly
In a weedy field split dose is preferred

 

[Brisel]

How far apart do you do the splits?

 

[yellow belly]

Depends on how good the first spray goes on and the weed burden
Small early weeds took out early on bad charlock fields
If the first one does a good job and there is no rain to germinate any more the second can wait or be missed
Grass weed spray may need to be fitted in

 

[ollie989898]

3 litres is going to touch the crop up. Split the dose in case you get weeds emerging in flushes.

Best applied to small weeds as early as you can and definitely don't look at the crop for a week afterwards. First time I ever used it in beans I took the advice from too many people and did the oil as well. Farmer did it and I looked at the crop sneakily about 10 days later then wished I hadn't. In fairness the crop recovered well.