Bazadaise
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Dave6170
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- Watten, caithness
I wouldnt mind trying some thing different on our commercial AAs as well. Trying Sim right now but not convinced yet.. Mainly trying to keep a bit of size in our replacements. Thought about a shorthorn or hereford bull but not sure about the stots for selling store at 14-16 months? Any thoughts? Would a baz x aa be a good replacement suckler?
Char or lim a definite no no.
Char or lim a definite no no.
Dave6170
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- Watten, caithness
Why are blondes not that popular? Are they not very milky? Too fine?
Walterp
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- Pembrokeshire
I like 'em, but I've seen that they can have a huge (and very unwelcome) variety, because the double muscling gene is so hit-and-miss with them if a Blonde bull is used across a varied cross-bred herd.
Reputed to be wild as hawks, but that's not my experience.
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
The Spring Newsletter from the British Bazadaise Cattle Society is now out.
If you would like a copy (and a copy of the Autumn 2013 Newsletter), please PM me with your email address. Or you can email [email protected]
If you would like a copy (and a copy of the Autumn 2013 Newsletter), please PM me with your email address. Or you can email [email protected]
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Guiggs
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- Leicestershire
We used to have a blonde bull, he was a real gentle giant, easy calving and good conformation on his offspring plenty of length in them as well, he was 16 when he left us as he'd gone of his feet and had a lot of daughters in the herd!
I for one would have one over a char or lim any day, can't understand why more people don't but each to their own!
I for one would have one over a char or lim any day, can't understand why more people don't but each to their own!
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
The Winter 2014/2015 Newsletter from the British Bazadaise Cattle Society is now out.
If you would like a copy, please PM me with your email address. Or you can email a request to [email protected]
Contains info about the next Bazadaise Society Sale at Newark in May.
If you would like a copy, please PM me with your email address. Or you can email a request to [email protected]
Contains info about the next Bazadaise Society Sale at Newark in May.
AGN76
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- north Wales
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
@AGN76 Yes, Edonil is easy calving and would be suitable for a blue cow. There are many Bazadaise breeders using a Baz bull on blue and blueX cattle. To my knowledge no-one in UK has taken Baz embryos although they do in Australia - we just tend to use AI as there is a good choice of bulls.
If you got a Baz sired heifer out of your blue cow, you could register it in the Bazadaise Herdbook as a Grade A animal.
Its easy to get straws - just order through the website form for the bull you want.
If you got a Baz sired heifer out of your blue cow, you could register it in the Bazadaise Herdbook as a Grade A animal.
Its easy to get straws - just order through the website form for the bull you want.
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
The Autumn Newsletter from the British Bazadaise Cattle Society is available to download here...
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
The Next Sale of Pedigree and Crossbred Bazadaise is on Tues 5th April 2016 at Melton Mowbray Market
http://www.bazadaise.org.uk/
http://meltonmowbraymarket.co.uk/
More details later
http://www.bazadaise.org.uk/
http://meltonmowbraymarket.co.uk/
More details later
Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
Why have bazadaise never took off?
choochter
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- aberdeenshire
There are many minority breeds of continental cattle, of which Bazadaise is one. I suppose Limousin first became the popular continental breed in the UK and has maintained that dominance.
The Bazadaise breed comes from the area around Bazas which is just south of Bordeaux in south west France and cattle were first brought over to the UK in the late 1980s as bulls to put on dairy cows because of the breed's reputation for easy calving and low birthweight calves. There are over 1000 cattle in the UK herdbook. There are 50 Full members of the British Bazadaise Cattle Society and 40 Associate members.
They are lighter boned than the Limousin and used to be slightly smaller but, with the input of modern genetics from France, probably not now. There are many enthusiastic Bazadaise breeders in the UK - most have small numbers of pedigree Baz run alongside a larger commercial herd. Many are finishing bulls between 13 and 16 months and 390 and 420 dwt, most will be U3 with some Es. Cows have a good cull value, heifers are sought after for breeding.
Why are they not more popular? Maybe it's because breeders are spread throughout the UK and so it's difficult to get folk together to have a significant presence at shows - hitherto there have been no show classes for Bazadaise although for the first time there will be classes at the Royal Welsh Show this year. The Society has only just restarted the Annual Society Sale after a break of several years where the issue was a lack of surplus females for sale.
There are many Bazadaise bulls working away in commercial herds throughout the UK, although their progeny may not be badged as BazX - and there is a significant amount of repeat business for replacement bulls.
The Bazadaise breed comes from the area around Bazas which is just south of Bordeaux in south west France and cattle were first brought over to the UK in the late 1980s as bulls to put on dairy cows because of the breed's reputation for easy calving and low birthweight calves. There are over 1000 cattle in the UK herdbook. There are 50 Full members of the British Bazadaise Cattle Society and 40 Associate members.
They are lighter boned than the Limousin and used to be slightly smaller but, with the input of modern genetics from France, probably not now. There are many enthusiastic Bazadaise breeders in the UK - most have small numbers of pedigree Baz run alongside a larger commercial herd. Many are finishing bulls between 13 and 16 months and 390 and 420 dwt, most will be U3 with some Es. Cows have a good cull value, heifers are sought after for breeding.
Why are they not more popular? Maybe it's because breeders are spread throughout the UK and so it's difficult to get folk together to have a significant presence at shows - hitherto there have been no show classes for Bazadaise although for the first time there will be classes at the Royal Welsh Show this year. The Society has only just restarted the Annual Society Sale after a break of several years where the issue was a lack of surplus females for sale.
There are many Bazadaise bulls working away in commercial herds throughout the UK, although their progeny may not be badged as BazX - and there is a significant amount of repeat business for replacement bulls.
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M-J-G
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There seems to be a fair few minority continental breeds of cattle (Bazadaise, Aubrac, Piedmontese, Parthanais) and sheep (Charmoise, Berrichon, Roussin) to name a few, which haven't turned into a big hit in the UK. I guess other breeds may have more of a desirable combination of traits, or are better at particular jobs.
If not that, then perhaps it's just a case of it not being possible for everything to be popular.
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- Buxton, Derbyshire
It has nothing to do with a lack of non-farming money being invested in these breeds then??? Or is that a whole new debate?
Choochter just wanted to say that the store calve I sold at thainstone was out of an Edonil cow, extremely easy calving cow. I am waiting on my 1st baz x calves out of luing and sim luing, bull that I bought from Choocter is very easy and quiet
reverand
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- East lancs hills
Let us know how they get on out of the luing
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
All of @choochter 's cattle are quiet - a reflection of her good eye for stock and her stock handling
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