BBC at it again re meat and climate

Bill dog

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Mixed Farmer
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Scottish Borders
In the big scheme of things, the cow population is going nowhere but down.
Here in the ROI, where importance of agriculture to the entire economy is much greater than in UK, and where farmers and rural voters have much more political clout than in UK, it’s niw pretty much accepted the national herd is going to be cut.
Up to now no leading politician never mind a rural based one, would whisper the words “reduce the national herd”. They are now softening us up with leaks to that effect, just before they make it national policy.
We will be forced out of suckler beef to get the numbers down. The more profitable and employment intensive dairy side will be capped at current herd size. Suckler men will have to switch to rearing dairy bred beef, plus perhaps contract rearing dairy heifers. Oh, a few euros will be offered to let part of all current suckler farms, return to nature.
If the politicos can make it happen in ROI, it sure will happen in UK, with cream on top.
What’s the farmers journal saying about it over there?
I only ever bought it when visiting, and it seems a very pro farming paper. The editor, the fella McCarthy I think, he seemed to talk sense. I wish we had someone like him over here.
Hopefully Ag across the pond is still connected enough to the population, that it won’t be too severely blamed .
We are fooked I think, Carrie and her spineless deputy Bojo have done for us !
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
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Devon
Our world in data has aviation at 1.9% of global emissions in their 2020 pie chart. Everyone bangs on about flying on here but I struggle to get incandescent over 1.9% when there are far bigger targets to be vilifying. Go outside the farming bubble and the level of waste in general society is absolutely sickening, food waste being one of these waste categories.
Just to pick up on this, though I don't disagree there are other bigger targets.
In his attempt to defend tax cuts for air passengers, Sunak said yesterday in Parliament that aviation was 8% of the UK's carbon footprint (and no doubt rising). Decidedly larger than the CLAIMED 4% or so of UK's livestock sector. (Which it seems they're pushing to introduce taxes on.)

Besides which, the fact remains, 1 of the most effective things you can do as an individual is fly less - presuming you fly in the first place!
 

Cheesehead

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Livestock Farmer
Just to pick up on this, though I don't disagree there are other bigger targets.
In his attempt to defend tax cuts for air passengers, Sunak said yesterday in Parliament that aviation was 8% of the UK's carbon footprint (and no doubt rising). Decidedly larger than the CLAIMED 4% or so of UK's livestock sector. (Which it seems they're pushing to introduce taxes on.)

Besides which, the fact remains, 1 of the most effective things you can do as an individual is fly less - presuming you fly in the first place!
The thing is in an article I saw last week about that he was also stating he didn't believe there should be a meat tax either.
 

DaveGrohl

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Cumbria
Just to pick up on this, though I don't disagree there are other bigger targets.
In his attempt to defend tax cuts for air passengers, Sunak said yesterday in Parliament that aviation was 8% of the UK's carbon footprint (and no doubt rising). Decidedly larger than the CLAIMED 4% or so of UK's livestock sector. (Which it seems they're pushing to introduce taxes on.)

Besides which, the fact remains, 1 of the most effective things you can do as an individual is fly less - presuming you fly in the first place!
Numbers numbers numbers. It's a complete fog these days. What to believe? I think it's simply a case of the numbers don't actually add up.

Oh, and I don't think Rishi's very good with numbers, that particular skill isn't particularly required in Chancellors, they have advisors to tell them how numbers can be made to come up with desired outcomes.

The internal flight thing just shows you what an utter shi itshow all of this has become.
 

Daddy Pig

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dorset
Just to pick up on this, though I don't disagree there are other bigger targets.
In his attempt to defend tax cuts for air passengers, Sunak said yesterday in Parliament that aviation was 8% of the UK's carbon footprint (and no doubt rising). Decidedly larger than the CLAIMED 4% or so of UK's livestock sector. (Which it seems they're pushing to introduce taxes on.)

Besides which, the fact remains, 1 of the most effective things you can do as an individual is fly less - presuming you fly in the first place!
He also said it didn't matter that much as a lot of the emissions are offset.
 

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Man fined £300 for bonfire-related waste offences

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Written by William Kellett from Agriland

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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