BBC Fake News

People living there and the Fox News report paints a totally different picture of life there though ,there was a lorry driver on the radio yesterday talking about it and if he is to be believed it is not very good over there at the moment

I live in the EU and think it's a good thing. Therefore if someone in Australia sees me on TV then things must be very good for everyone in the EU.

Surely you would agree?

Trump spouts loads of nonsense, he gets called out on it and then it's someone elses fault. IT's fox news fault, "someone" told him about his election victory.

If he pulled his head from between President Bannons arse cheeks for five minutes he may be able to hear what his daily intelligence briefings are telling him, that is IF he attends them.

Mark my words, the man will be his own undoing.
 

Wessland

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Location
Tierp
Perhaps your computer is different to mine but the Christmas tree incident is before 1.08 on my computer and not what I am talking about. I am talking about what the Swedish woman says after the introduction where the headline is "Sweden" , She starts talking at 1.47 and continues to 2.36.
Later at 4.35 there is a Norwegian police statistic which states that in Oslo near 100% of rape assaults between strangers were perpetrated by immigrant non white males.
Kristin Spitznogle is interviewed at 4.57 who is a therapist who has counselled rape victims.
Who am I (or Trump) to believe, you with your opinion or these people with evidence to back up their stories?

So now you say you have a problem in some suburbs which is shown in the video at 1.32 as a number of no go areas. Not a new problem? Is the problem caused by native white Swedes?

Problem is caused by criminal gangs like Hells Angels, Bandidos, Balkan mafia in the nineties and more recently other ethnicity shaped delinquent youth groups (gangs).
And as an added bonus left wing and right wing extremist do their best to contribute to the violence. http://www.thelocal.se/20150319/sweden-has-had-gang-problems-since-1990s

https://www.quora.com/Is-Sweden-the-rape-capital-of-the-world
 

Stuart J

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Mixed Farmer
Location
UK
@turbo

He referred to an incident last Friday. You are correct that he didn't say terrorist attack.

So here's a question for you. And @Roger Perry since he seems to have missed it again.

Why would the Trump administration make up two terrorist attacks and an 'incident' ?
Why would they completely fabricate these three stories? Why would they create these pieces of FAKE NEWS?
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
People living there and the Fox News report paints a totally different picture of life there though ,there was a lorry driver on the radio yesterday talking about it and if he is to be believed it is not very good over there at the moment

But I suspect you would find the same here if UK if a foreign news crew / journalist went digging with an agenda. For example what about the Rotherham Grooming child grooming case - that could be 'spun' many ways.
 

turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
@turbo

He referred to an incident last Friday. You are correct that he didn't say terrorist attack.

So here's a question for you. And @Roger Perry since he seems to have missed it again.

Why would the Trump administration make up two terrorist attacks and an 'incident' ?
Why would they completely fabricate these three stories? Why would they create these pieces of FAKE NEWS?
I Am busy at the moment so if you could direct me the other 2 incidents I will look later
 

Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
But I suspect you would find the same here if UK if a foreign news crew / journalist went digging with an agenda. For example what about the Rotherham Grooming child grooming case - that could be 'spun' many ways.

If you remember Trump has already invented stories about radical no go areas in London back in late 2015
 

Stuart J

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
UK
I Am busy at the moment so if you could direct me the other 2 incidents I will look later

Certainly.

Firstly we have 'The Bowling Green MASSACRE' as described by Kelly Anne Conway. Completely fictional.

Secondly we have the 'Atlanta Terrorist attack' This is Sean Spicers fabrication, he has spoken about it 3 times already. It is also completely fictional.
 

dstudent

Member
Let s look at the many false claimes made by the orange lollypop which became embeded within the fake news narrative, and got him elected:
He said:
'We don’t have victories anymore. We used to have victories, but we don’t have them. When was the last time anybody saw us beating, let’s say, China in a trade deal? They kill us. I beat China all the time. All the time.'

The reality:
'The first thing false about this claim is that we don’t have any trade deals with China. Our trade relations with China aren’t based upon “deals.” They are based on our membership in the World Trade Organization, which China joined in 2001, long after the rules were established. China doesn’t “kill us” in trade deals, because there are no such deals.

The second false thing is that we do kill China on trade, anyway. The WTO has a dispute resolution process and, as pointed out on the U.S. Trade Representative’s Enforcement page, the Obama administration’s record was remarkable. The U.S. has launched 23 enforcement actions at the WTO since 2009, which is more than any other country. Fourteen of those, or 60 percent, were directed at China, and the U.S. has won every one of its trade enforcement challenges decided so far, “worth billions of dollars in trade opportunities for U.S. exporters.”'
http://www.alternet.org/economy/donald-trump-knows-nothing-about-economics
 

Billhook

Member
But I suspect you would find the same here if UK if a foreign news crew / journalist went digging with an agenda. For example what about the Rotherham Grooming child grooming case - that could be 'spun' many ways.

I am not sure quite how many ways it could be spun. 1400 cases predominately Kashmiri or Mirpuri men involved and still going on apparently
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/69...d-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

As for nothing to worry about here with Sharia law, have a look at Luton


I admit, in my rural idyll here, that I see nothing of this. In my local small market town there are a couple of friendly Muslim shopkeepers who blend into the peaceful community. I like most people only see what is presented on the TV and the web.
Fake news? I am a possibilarian.
 

Ashtree

Member
Trump made up a silly story for Teresa May when she called for tea. He announced to her that he had a wonderful golf course in another country in the EU (he was referring to Ireland and his Doonbeg golf course) but he didn't actually specify the location to TM.

He brazenly announces that he wanted to carry out major redevelopment on the course but was prevented from doing so by the EU whilst the local Irish authorities were in favour of giving him the go ahead.
Complete fabrication on his behalf. The decision to refuse his redevelopment (sea wall) was 100% taken by the local area planning and zoning authority. Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU.
Reality to him is what he wants it to be not what it actually is.
 

dstudent

Member
Hi there, again 'fake news' the percentage of muslim population in Malmo is actuslly 20% not 90 like claimed in the video, again lots of false informations given here, which have been explained in previous posts.
Unfortunatly i m starting to realize how big this 'fake news' problem, like @JohnGalway said Jones is part of a group of radio/ internet Tv personalities such as Rush Limbaugh, Milo Y, O' rilley etc, who peddle false informations.
Having said that he had a point if our governments bomb these places do we really think there are not going to be consequences?
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
I am not sure quite how many ways it could be spun. 1400 cases predominately Kashmiri or Mirpuri men involved and still going on apparently
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/69...d-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

As for nothing to worry about here with Sharia law, have a look at Luton


I admit, in my rural idyll here, that I see nothing of this. In my local small market town there are a couple of friendly Muslim shopkeepers who blend into the peaceful community. I like most people only see what is presented on the TV and the web.
Fake news? I am a possibilarian.


And me too - my little rural part of South Lincolnshire too has not many, if any Muslims. I am troubled though by incitement from all sections of the community regardless of which colour or religion. But I suppose I am a pacifist, humanist and take view religion taken literally tends to cause nothing but trouble but did give rise to some superb architecture - as I tap away on my keyboard I am looking across to spire of our village church - 12th Century I think. Hey ho. I take view (as I would you may say) that if Mohamed and Jesus (if they ever existed) were to turn upto today they might just say 'hey guys do not take too literally what we said and wrote hundreds of years ago. Who knows.
 

Danllan

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Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Yes, that 'news' is drivel. Anyway, most Swedes find the 20% Islamic figure frightening enough in its own right for them to take political action. These 'news' sites should say things more along the lines of 'the Xyz area / suburb of Malmo is now >80% Islamic', that's true and frightening enough to get the reaction they want.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
The thing that does trouble me is why Mr Trump as President of USA with access to information and in depth reports from his own ambassador in Sweden and the CIA should in the first place be quoting as President of the USA from an article he saw on Fox News. That sounds just like us folk on here harrying and parrying each other with hyperlinks to suits ones own point of view. Hey ho. There you go.
 
The thing that does trouble me is why Mr Trump as President of USA with access to information and in depth reports from his own ambassador in Sweden and the CIA should in the first place be quoting as President of the USA from an article he saw on Fox News. That sounds just like us folk on here harrying and parrying each other with hyperlinks to suits ones own point of view. Hey ho. There you go.

Because......

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...or-daily-intelligence-briefings-a7468456.html
 

dstudent

Member
I am not sure quite how many ways it could be spun. 1400 cases predominately Kashmiri or Mirpuri men involved and still going on apparently
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/69...d-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

As for nothing to worry about here with Sharia law, have a look at Luton


I admit, in my rural idyll here, that I see nothing of this. In my local small market town there are a couple of friendly Muslim shopkeepers who blend into the peaceful community. I like most people only see what is presented on the TV and the web.
Fake news? I am a possibilarian.
Like u I m very very troubled, I m in London and in my part of town these things don t happen, we are all very intermingled a fantastic community of all different backgrounds religions etc we would not let that cr### fly from any type of extremist religious or political.
I ve attached the full documentary, very interesting and it needs to be seen in all its entiry as it shows different sides of extremism, it s very honest, these issues need to be discussed, to understand and counter act them
 
And me too - my little rural part of South Lincolnshire too has not many, if any Muslims. I am troubled though by incitement from all sections of the community regardless of which colour or religion. But I suppose I am a pacifist, humanist and take view religion taken literally tends to cause nothing but trouble but did give rise to some superb architecture - as I tap away on my keyboard I am looking across to spire of our village church - 12th Century I think. Hey ho. I take view (as I would you may say) that if Mohamed and Jesus (if they ever existed) were to turn upto today they might just say 'hey guys do not take too literally what we said and wrote hundreds of years ago. Who knows.


Mohammed was a warlord.

He enslaved, raped, murdered and commited genocide - killing entire communities of men and children, putting girls and women into sex slavery.
 

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