BBC Green Peter!

[wanton dwarf]

Indoctrination of young again !

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1295808047502707

Made the DailyMail .. well done !

Farmers slam Blue Peter for encouraging children to stop eating meat

The meat-free move from the BBC children's series sparked backlash from some parents and farmers, including father-of-three Gareth Wyn Jones, who runs a 2,000-acre farm in North Wales.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[YorksLass]

Lets say I am the Blue Peter researcher. Where do I go for my yoof info ? Social media.

Animal Rebellion (no money, loads of commitment)
https://www.facebook.com/AnimalRebellion/
Posts pretty much daily. 22k followers.

NFU (loads of money, no commitment)
https://www.facebook.com/NFUSchools
Posts pretty much zero. 500 followers.

It's not Blue Peter's fault. It's not the vegans fault. It's our fault, we are completely and utterly useless.

School info. Go to resource Twinkl.
https://www.twinkl.co.uk/
Put 'cows and the environment' in to search on there. Again, nothing from us. Useless, quite literally useless.

Sorry but NFU seems to be more pro active on education than most other topics lately! Reaching 30,000 students is a pretty big sign up and buy in from schools to their resources.

Blue Peter are just following their Over Lord's lead and pushing anti meat. At no point were vehicles mentioned as per, or different countries production methods and how that impacts differently. Yet more Biased B0llocks Corp

 

[delilah]

Sorry but NFU seems to be more pro active on education than most other topics lately! Reaching 30,000 students is a pretty big sign up and buy in from schools to their resources.

Blue Peter are just following their Over Lord's lead and pushing anti meat. At no point were vehicles mentioned as per, or different countries production methods and how that impacts differently. Yet more Biased B0llocks Corp

Science week, yes, excellent. It would be good to see some activity the other 51 weeks of the year. Perhaps I expect too much for my subs.

 

[farmerm]

So are we saying that the Blue Peter researcher was a vegan ? And the researchers for the various other programmes that say 'eat less/no meat' are vegans ? That would be pretty freakish coincidence given vegans are only FA% of the population.
No, the researchers aren't going in to work with an agenda, they are going in to work to do their job. And when they do their job, on the internet, they end up with a script that says "eat no meat". And that is our fault, not theirs.

Researchers may not necessarily go to work with an agenda but their output is often and understandably clouded by their personal opinions and personal life experience. There is a certain cultural mold that produces people attracted to the role of BBC researchers and media work in general. I would put big money on betting there are a greater proportion of vegans employed as BBC researchers and the media in general than is the case in wider society.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Researchers may not necessarily go to work with an agenda but their output is often and understandably clouded by their personal opinions and personal life experience. There is a certain cultural mold that produces people attracted to the role of BBC researchers and media work in general. I would put big money on betting there are a greater proportion of vegans employed as BBC researchers and the media in general than is the case in wider society.

I doubt you'll find anyone to take the other side of that bet.

 

[Devil's advocate]

I do understand the IT and I do understand the "Supposed" way to get Google to advertise your website for example.

BUT TBH politics dominates it all - regardless of you being right, correct and fair. There are political mechanisms in place to ensure PC Liberal opinions dominate especially in social media.

The only way around this is getting to be a member of an organisation such as the Conservative Party & NFU and making your voice heard en masse.

I know my Conservative MP & NFU organise meetings and I do take part. I'm sorry to say that without you take action as an individual your voice will NOT be heard. If you don't vote Conservative then other MPs will quite rightly point out your vote as standing for opinions & policies which harm you. An MP will listen to you the most if you vote for him/her, are active in the party and you are in organisations.

If you don't vote Conservative then all I can say is you are getting exactly what you voted for.

I did reluntaly vote conservative.

But isn't one of the worst attackers of uk agriculture the prime ministers own wife to be?

 

[wanton dwarf]

I did reluntaly vote conservative.

But isn't one of the worst attackers of uk agriculture the prime ministers own wife to be?

One of the worst compared to the Green, Labour and Liberals ?

I think the Conservatives are in obeyance to all those parties - secure in the knowledge that existing Conservatives will still vote for them whilst living in fear of losing power. Or in other words fighting continually over City votes.

I just don't know enough about her to say anything concrete. I would say Cummings, if he isn't partisan, has the lowdown.

 

[Devil's advocate]

One of the worst compared to the Green, Labour and Liberals ?

I think the Conservatives are in obeyance to all those parties - secure in the knowledge that existing Conservatives will still vote for them whilst living in fear of losing power. Or in other words fighting continually over City votes.

I just don't know enough about her to say anything concrete. I would say Cummings, if he isn't partisan, has the lowdown.

Much worse

She wants to replace farmers with badgers & beevers.

Beever funny word, especially because tatical use of that type of beever has done so much to populate the land with lots of beevers of the furry type.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Much worse

She wants to replace farmers with badgers & beevers.

Beever funny word, especially because tatical use of that type of beever has done so much to populate the land with lots of beevers of the furry type.

I've read as much but am willing to sit it out and wait to see what happens. Boris's father is another matter .. environmentalist who thinks having a second/third home in Eastern Europe matches such aspirations. Funny how the rich don't have to practice what they preach.

 

[nxy]

Has anyone else noticed how every other show on the BBC seems to have got drone shots in it of the great British countryside.
What do they think it would look like without livestock? When most of the British public imagine the countryside what they are really thinking about is farmland.

For me there are two simple points to get out

If you visit the most attractive bits of the British countryside just because you like the way it looks you are a consumer of livestock farming even if you are vegan.

Saying all meat is bad for the climate makes about as much sense as saying all vegetables are bad because some idiot eats "mange tout" in January.

Problem is a largely urban population isn't getting that message, they are watching programs made by other urban people with an agenda.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

there seem to be lots of "farming" programmes on TV, and yet and yet, none really seem to show what is involved, they all want to show a rural bucolic view, almost like Marie Antionette playing at being a milk maid.

 

[Ted M]

CBBC/Blue Peter changed their message now.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=282896153452762&id=100051971389604

Don't know if it's all down to GWJ but I think they've had an awful lot of complaints.

 

[GeorgeC1]

You must be a right slacker then. I worked a 14 hour day from 8:00am to 21:00pm day before yesterday and then had tidying up work to do. Physical work not sitting on my bum doing what I did when I was at school.

I work 6 days a week minimum. When I was doing a 40+ hour week I'd still work on the farm evenings, nights and weekends. In my day job I've worked 130 hour weeks, 36 hour days.

Teachers have a very very easy life. The reason I post on here after 7pm or not at all is because I'm working. Had I late breakfast and yes you guessed it .. back to work.

If Teaching is so easy then why does the UK have a chronic Teacher shortage with Teacher retention rates an abysmal low?

 

[GeorgeC1]

One of the worst compared to the Green, Labour and Liberals ?

I think the Conservatives are in obeyance to all those parties - secure in the knowledge that existing Conservatives will still vote for them whilst living in fear of losing power. Or in other words fighting continually over City votes.

I just don't know enough about her to say anything concrete. I would say Cummings, if he isn't partisan, has the lowdown.

I've always said a Sane Green party would be the best party for Farmers to vote for, maybe not Animal Agri but they would promote localism heavily.

 

[An Gof]

My sister is a teacher. She is Left wing like her husband who is also a teacher. She thinks wasps are pollinators. She thought bees would help a Wheat crop yield more. She teaches materials to 16 year olds but doesn't understand the thermal properties of a concrete block. She has never driven a tractor, never done a days work on the farm, yet she moans about being ignored in a male dominated environment. She never will farm because she doesn't want to - she would bow out at a hard days work. In fact I would say she went back to school as a teacher because she never really left that very safe childlike environment.

She's also a Vegan.

She'll read the Guardian and Labour propaganda and take it hook, line and sinker.

Do you seriously think she'll swallow NFU propaganda ? I bet if I asked her opinion of the NFU she'd come up with the Default "The Guardian" response. Something about Lobbying and animal cruelty.

Does she feed her children a Vegan diet ? No. Because she researched the harmful damage a Vegan diet does to a growing brain. Full fat cream, meat etc for the children. Oxymoron that one.

Bundle of fun at Christmas in your house when sister and brother in law visits

 

[An Gof]

You must be a right slacker then. I worked a 14 hour day from 8:00am to 21:00pm day before yesterday and then had tidying up work to do. Physical work not sitting on my bum doing what I did when I was at school.

Either your maths teacher was very poor or you were not paying attention at school

 

[Danllan]

If Teaching is so easy then why does the UK have a chronic Teacher shortage with Teacher retention rates an abysmal low?

Because they recruit an awful lot of people who aren't up to the job and don't pay the good ones enough.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Because they recruit an awful lot of people who aren't up to the job and don't pay the good ones enough.

And because it is a difficult job, and our culture has changed so teachers no longer have the authority in the classroom. I was told that in a secondary school in Milford Haven, a pupil got up and walked out of his class, and walked into another class, sat down and said, I am going to be in this class now and there is nothing you can do about it! And began to disrupt the class. And to be honest there is nothing that the teachers could do about it, what is needed is more discipline and bring back corporal punishment I think, but society seems not to want that, it would rather we progressively raise a generation of scroats who have no discipline and can leave school ready for a life on the social. All this is not aided by the left wing twaddle that is spread in teacher training college. As an example, when I was in Wolverhampton Poly (teacher training school) I asked the librarian if they could buy the Daily Telegraph (they had The Guardian to read in the Library), I was told "we are not going to have the Torygraph in my Library" end of!

 

[Danllan]

And because it is a difficult job, and our culture has changed so teachers no longer have the authority in the classroom. I was told that in a secondary school in Milford Haven, a pupil got up and walked out of his class, and walked into another class, sat down and said, I am going to be in this class now and there is nothing you can do about it! And began to disrupt the class. And to be honest there is nothing that the teachers could do about it, what is needed is more discipline and bring back corporal punishment I think, but society seems not to want that, it would rather we progressively raise a generation of scroats who have no discipline and can leave school ready for a life on the social. All this is not aided by the left wing twaddle that is spread in teacher training college. As an example, when I was in Wolverhampton Poly (teacher training school) I asked the librarian if they could buy the Daily Telegraph (they had The Guardian to read in the Library), I was told "we are not going to have the Torygraph in my Library" end of!

Yep, it all follows the left-liberal assertion that corporal punishment doesn't work, when the rest of us know it does. When there is no discipline at home, there has to be at school, and vice versa. There is no discipline at school now, and very soon - here in Wales - there will be none at home. What really, really p!sses me off is that the left-liberals simply refuse to recognise the direct correlation between removal of corporal punishment - i.e. scholastic discipline - and the increase in youth offenders.

Of course there always were offenders, and always will be, but 'policy' is about doing the best for most. The only light at the end of the tunnel is that increasingly more and more people are being alienated by general liberal 'sensitivities' and wokeness, so there will be an electoral backlash sooner or later.

 

[wanton dwarf]

If Teaching is so easy then why does the UK have a chronic Teacher shortage with Teacher retention rates an abysmal low?

School workforce census 2019 - the key findings

The Department for Education has today published the latest school workforce census (November 2019).

schoolsweek.co.uk

1. Fewer teachers are leaving the profession …
2. … but more are gone after five years
3. Pupil teacher ratios are increasing in secondary schools
4. Teacher pay is on the up (but men still take home more)
5. Fewer teachers are taking sick days
6. The squeeze on time teaching non-Ebacc subjects continues