BBC programmes reducing a family's carbon footprint

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
You lot are far too pleasant and tolerant! I found out long ago that one person can actually change things, including the law, and even get public servants sacked!:giggle:

But do please first learn to complain effectively.

Complaining directly to a TV program or a newspaper is a waste of time. I won't say it is a complete waste of time because if an editor gets 20 complaints about the same subject, he will take notice.

Mark Twain said something to the effect that to sell newspapers an editor needs to be controversial and to upset 50% of his readers every week. The art of newspaper publishing, he added, comes from upsetting a different 50% of his readers each week! So editors publishing lies are not actually doing anything wrong as an editor, just make sure they don't get away with it.

The body to complain to about the BBC (and any other TV or radio program) is Ofcom (https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code). This body is created by statute, so it's the law. In the case of misreporting (lies) it is section 5 of the code you need to look at. (Quote that in your complaint).

I suggest you synchronise your complaint with several others, i.e. all write in at the same time. Snail mail will be better than email. Recorded even better. Stick to the facts and limit your complaint to 250 words. Be specific and unemotional. Hand written is good, but it needs to be legible. You can put on the bottom, "Copies sent to ... then the name of your MP etc. but if you don't actually need to send the copies, they will still take notice). But DO complain!

For the press, it is IPSO (https://www.ipso.co.uk) but they are a voluntary organisation, though an independent one which is good because we don't really want government meddling with our newspapers.

But PLEASE take the trouble to complain. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. It is our national 'trade' organisation that should doing that but I've never met such a useless load of strokers in my life. Whining on here gets you nowhere.
 

Raider112

Member
On tv now.They just said that meat contributes to over 50 % of carbon emissions in the UK !!!!! I could not believe what I was hearing,I expect the NFU PR team will be straight onto them,won't they ?
How the hell can that go unchallenged? That sort of thing is directly harming livestock farming with a lie that isn't even close to being accurate. It can't possibly be a mistake, it has to be deliberate and malicious. Surely some sort of offense must have been committed? Whether it has or not it should be challenged legally, the publicity regarding the actual figures would be worth it even if it wasn't successful. This has gone on for far too long and a few complaints does nothing to stop it. Go for the big one and the rest are more likely to think twice about what they say.
 

Ted M

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
You lot are far too pleasant and tolerant! I found out long ago that one person can actually change things, including the law, and even get public servants sacked!:giggle:

But do please first learn to complain effectively.

Complaining directly to a TV program or a newspaper is a waste of time. I won't say it is a complete waste of time because if an editor gets 20 complaints about the same subject, he will take notice.

Mark Twain said something to the effect that to sell newspapers an editor needs to be controversial and to upset 50% of his readers every week. The art of newspaper publishing, he added, comes from upsetting a different 50% of his readers each week! So editors publishing lies are not actually doing anything wrong as an editor, just make sure they don't get away with it.

The body to complain to about the BBC (and any other TV or radio program) is Ofcom (https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code). This body is created by statute, so it's the law. In the case of misreporting (lies) it is section 5 of the code you need to look at. (Quote that in your complaint).

I suggest you synchronise your complaint with several others, i.e. all write in at the same time. Snail mail will be better than email. Recorded even better. Stick to the facts and limit your complaint to 250 words. Be specific and unemotional. Hand written is good, but it needs to be legible. You can put on the bottom, "Copies sent to ... then the name of your MP etc. but if you don't actually need to send the copies, they will still take notice). But DO complain!

For the press, it is IPSO (https://www.ipso.co.uk) but they are a voluntary organisation, though an independent one which is good because we don't really want government meddling with our newspapers.

But PLEASE take the trouble to complain. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. It is our national 'trade' organisation that should doing that but I've never met such a useless load of strokers in my life. Whining on here gets you nowhere.
I have sent a complaint in but ofcom say you should complain to the bbc directly in the first instance.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have sent a complaint in but ofcom say you should complain to the bbc directly in the first instance.
That is probably the correct procedure. Everyone makes it as difficult as possible to complain these days. Often it will be an email address written in tiny type at the bottom of a page most won't go to. It does sometimes take some persistence. We need a group specially dedicated to this. We could call it something catchy, like the NFU! :rolleyes:
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Cancel your licence.

I’ve written countless emails to them about their biased reports, including the debunking resources from on here, they’re not interested, there’s an agenda to be played out of which they are the mouthpiece and they don’t give a toss about you or I. You get some faux concerned email a month later in reply, copied and pasted by some vegan intern which says theyre sad to hear you disagree, they then regurgitate the same shite saying they’ve looked into the complaint and consider it closed and that’s the end of it.

I don’t miss live tv, it’s mostly shite anyway. Get GBNews channel on a 1 minute delay on youtube. Simon McCoy and Kirstie Gallagher are brilliant in the morning, great chemistry and Simon’s a sarcky sod which I like, far better than that gobshite Munshitty and co on BBC. The evening shows with Farage, Dan Wooton and Colin Brazier are very good. Plus Neil Oliver on Saturday does a good show.

Only thing I’ll miss on live telly is the rugby, but I’ll just have t invite myself somewhere else during 6nations.
Watch it on the internet pirate streams then...

I refuse to pay BT their rip-off monthly charge for BT sport (just for the Rugby), so streaming it is...

Mind, the 6N in a nice pub or clubhouse is not a bad place to be...
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I don't have to pay for a licence (too old) but they still insist that I have a free one (so they have a record?). What a piece of bureaucratic nonsense. You can guess what they get!
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Watch it on the internet pirate streams then...

I refuse to pay BT their rip-off monthly charge for BT sport (just for the Rugby), so streaming it is...

Mind, the 6N in a nice pub or clubhouse is not a bad place to be...
Where does one happen across these pirate streams?

just out of interest.
 

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