BBC Remainer bias

[bluegreen]

Whilst listening to Michael Portillo being interviewed by the BBC chief female hack Emma Barnett on her show this Thursday, I was almost shocked when he gave a candid assessment of our Civil service. Mr Portillo knows the civil service very well from his own time in parliament but pointed out that the current organisations set up is made up totally of remainers, with only one leaver that he was aware of. He claims that this situation hamstrung Brexit as the civil servants looked to block Brexit at every opportunity. And then much to my delight, but not Emma Barnetts, Michael pointed out that the other institution he has spent much time involved with, The BBC was also virtually all remainers and also conducted a biased policy against Brexit, blocking its path wherever and as much as possible. Emma made some limp remark about not inviting Mr Portillo in to criticize the beeb and that perhaps he could come back to discuss that situation another time. She was clearly caught off guard by Portillos remarks which if given a broader audience would have garnered a lot of anger from the public in the direction of both the Civil service and the BBC which I personally try not to watch anymore due to their constant stream of lies and innuendos about any political opponents, English or otherwise!

 

[bobk]

Sky are no better .

 

[Hindsight]

Whilst listening to Michael Portillo being interviewed by the BBC chief female hack Emma Barnett on her show this Thursday, I was almost shocked when he gave a candid assessment of our Civil service. Mr Portillo knows the civil service very well from his own time in parliament but pointed out that the current organisations set up is made up totally of remainers, with only one leaver that he was aware of. He claims that this situation hamstrung Brexit as the civil servants looked to block Brexit at every opportunity. And then much to my delight, but not Emma Barnetts, Michael pointed out that the other institution he has spent much time involved with, The BBC was also virtually all remainers and also conducted a biased policy against Brexit, blocking its path wherever and as much as possible. Emma made some limp remark about not inviting Mr Portillo in to criticize the beeb and that perhaps he could come back to discuss that situation another time. She was clearly caught off guard by Portillos remarks which if given a broader audience would have garnered a lot of anger from the public in the direction of both the Civil service and the BBC which I personally try not to watch anymore due to their constant stream of lies and innuendos about any political opponents, English or otherwise!

Stick to Russia Today for a considerably more even, balanced commentary on world affairs, especially Brexit.

 

[uztrac]

Stick to Russia Today for a considerably more even, balanced commentary on world affairs, especially Brexit.

I have been doing that for a number of years,the biased broadcasting corp are now so left wing it beggers belief.

 

[PSQ]

Stick to Russia Today for a considerably more even, balanced commentary on world affairs, especially Brexit.

Ah yes, Russia Today, who employ that well known objective presenter Alec Salmond, to give a fair and balanced view of the world.

Which reminds me, when’s his case for alleged sexual offences coming to court? Is it January or February? I’m sure it will be covered fully on RT!

 

[Agrivator]

It's very satisfying that the cabinet is at last made up of a group of MPs who are intent on honouring the result of the Referendum, and who are not afraid to keep pointing out that the Remainers, be they MPs, Civil Servants or Journalists, are intent on overriding the result of the Referendum.

That Jo Swinton?, the new leader of the Lib/Dems, can stand up and say that in the event of a second referendum she would still ignore a Leave victory, beggars belief.

 

[Hindsight]

It's very satisfying that the cabinet is at last made up of a group of MPs who are intent on honouring the result of the Referendum, and who are not afraid to keep pointing out that the Remainers, be they MPs, Civil Servants or Journalists, are intent on overriding the result of the Referendum.

That Jo Swinton?, the new leader of the Lib/Dems, can stand up and say that in the event of a second referendum she would still ignore a Leave victory, beggars belief.

Hi, why does it beggar belief. She believes in the EU and that UK would be better in the EU. So she does not intend changing her position. How does that differ from those folk who for forty years clung to their belief that the UK would be better served out of the EU.

Tolerance old friend, tolerance.

Best wishes,

 

[Danllan]

Hi, why does it beggar belief. She believes in the EU and that UK would be better in the EU. So she does not intend changing her position. How does that differ from those folk who for forty years clung to their belief that the UK would be better served out of the EU.

Tolerance old friend, tolerance.

Best wishes,

Because we are a democracy and she claims to be a democrat. As an example, I have been a life-long opponent of the Labour Party, but I have, nonetheless, accepted its being the rightful party to govern the UK after winning General Elections. Whereas, to follow her (and your) reasoning, democratic votes can be entirely ignored and acted against when they go a way that we, as individuals, don't like...

And you don't see any hypocrisy in that or anything wrong with it?

 

[Hindsight]

Because we are a democracy and she claims to be a democrat. As an example, I have been a life-long opponent of the Labour Party, but I have, nonetheless, accepted its being the rightful party to govern the UK after winning General Elections. Whereas, to follow her (and your) reasoning, democratic votes can be entirely ignored and acted against when they go a way that we, as individuals, don't like...

And you don't see any hypocrisy in that or anything wrong with it?

General elections come along every five years (or less) referendum on EU membership every 40 or so. So you can bide your time she cannot. In same way I would not disagree with a Leave politician having carried on if Remain had won the referendum. As I evidenced referencing those who never agreed with the 1973 result and fought for pas 40 years.

My answer will not meet your approval, so best we agree to disagree as we shall have a long rally to no end in this thread.

Best wishes,

 

[Clive]

BBC is becoming unwatchable when it comes to food / farming / environment and anything Brexit related

The bias is ridiculous and I’m amazed they can get away with it

 

[Danllan]

General elections come along every five years (or less) referendum on EU membership every 40 or so. So you can bide your time she cannot. In same way I would not disagree with a Leave politician having carried on if Remain had won the referendum. As I evidenced referencing those who never agreed with the 1973 result and fought for pas 40 years.

My answer will not meet your approval, so best we agree to disagree as we shall have a long rally to no end in this thread.

Best wishes,

No. Support was given for her not respecting / accepting a democratic vote, that is an entirely different thing to disagreeing with it.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Because we are a democracy and she claims to be a democrat. As an example, I have been a life-long opponent of the Labour Party, but I have, nonetheless, accepted its being the rightful party to govern the UK after winning General Elections. Whereas, to follow her (and your) reasoning, democratic votes can be entirely ignored and acted against when they go a way that we, as individuals, don't like...

And you don't see any hypocrisy in that or anything wrong with it?

So you are saying it's undemocratic to oppose Brexit?

 

[foxbox]

So you are saying it's undemocratic to oppose Brexit?

We're all being told that on a regular basis at the moment, either that or it's unpatriotic. It's got remarkable parallels with Trump really which perhaps shouldn't be a surprise.

Whilst the vote to leave was won there's nothing wrong with opposing it; in fact in doing so it should create a better leave in the longer run in exactly the same way as a strong Opposition is vital to a Government. Without it you lose scrutiny of decisions and accountability of those making the decisions. Our current crop of politicians don't appear to have anything beyond their own self interests at heart and when so many are drawn from such a small number of uni's and careers scrutiny of their decisions is the only thing keeping them vaguely straight.

But I suspect that's what you're getting at really!

 

[arcobob]

So you are saying it's undemocratic to oppose Brexit?

So you are saying it's undemocratic to oppose Brexit?

In her case certainly not because she was elected on a pro EU ticket as a member of a party who has always followed that line. It is those who change their stance to suit their own political ends who I despise most.. Nobody was elected to oppose or support Brexit but there is some very underhand manipulation taking place within the BBC and civil service to frustrate the will of the majority of the people. That may be construed as opposing democracy. It is certainly causing unnecessary uncertainty which is far worse than remainiong or leaving on a no deal.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Stick to Russia Today for a considerably more even, balanced commentary on world affairs, especially Brexit.

I would have thought Euronews was more your communist favourite.

If you want to live in the EU .. go live there .. if you want to live in the UK then I'm afraid you'll have to put up with Democracy.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Hi, why does it beggar belief. She believes in the EU and that UK would be better in the EU. So she does not intend changing her position. How does that differ from those folk who for forty years clung to their belief that the UK would be better served out of the EU.

Tolerance old friend, tolerance.

Best wishes,

Liberal "Democrats"

It's not tolerance .. it's outright contempt for the values this country is founded by.

If I ever get the chance I'll be there protesting against this band of facists.

 

[Farfrae]

Of course the BBC is biased it is the STATE broadcaster paid for by you; it spouts state propaganda so however you feel it is biased is as a result of what the establishment want you to hear. It's bias can be overt or subtle.

For example if I were to ask you ' what caused the crash that killed Princess Diana' you'd probably tell me it was because the car was being chased by the Papparazi. A story the BBC put out straight after the inquest. If you read the BBC website it still says that.

In fact the inquest said no such thing. Court Transcript here (pdf). It merely referred to the following vehicles (the paparazzi where some considerable distance away at this stage). The 'following vehicles' have never been identified although many claim they were part of the deliberate plot to silence her.

Whatever the truth the BBC did not report it factually at the behest of it's masters. Something that is happening day in day out. In fact to get any sort of objective analysis in the main stream media is impossible as they are either owned by billionaires or influenced by the state. It is necessary to read widely of both independent journalists and other state media (bearing in mind their bias as well) like RT and TelsSur to get any sort of 'normal' view of the world. Why do you think there is virtually no reporting of the truth on main stream media about Palestine? - Just ask yourself how much influence Israel has in Government and main stream media circles.

As for the UK well the Circus is coming to a town near you very, very soon. Bannon is the Ring Meister and The Clown is his best boy - at present filling his cabinet with "useful idiots".

Don't be fooled, although clearly most of you have been, - this is a right wing coup. Your NHS will go, the schools, (but not the public schools) already part privatised will be completely turned into "academies" and "free schools" over which you no longer have any say or control. The Clown will spend more on the police - but only so The Circus can keep you well under control. And from across the pond, The Trumpster smiles down at his new best friend. 3 yrs ago we knew Brexit was a coup and now the ring is almost closed, the lights are going on in the tent and soon the show will begin.

 

[Danllan]

So you are saying it's undemocratic to oppose Brexit?

It is, like Old Faithful and night following day, an absolute given that you will come back with a 'So you are saying...' post which attempts to ascribe words and sentiments plainly not written.

For the benefit of the terminally thick, it is undemocratic to oppose a democratic VOTE.

 

[jendan]

Of course the BBC is biased it is the STATE broadcaster paid for by you; it spouts state propaganda so however you feel it is biased is as a result of what the establishment want you to hear. It's bias can be overt or subtle.

For example if I were to ask you ' what caused the crash that killed Princess Diana' you'd probably tell me it was because the car was being chased by the Papparazi. A story the BBC put out straight after the inquest. If you read the BBC website it still says that.

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In fact the inquest said no such thing. Court Transcript here (pdf). It merely referred to the following vehicles (the paparazzi where some considerable distance away at this stage). The 'following vehicles' have never been identified although many claim they were part of the deliberate plot to silence her.

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Whatever the truth the BBC did not report it factually at the behest of it's masters. Something that is happening day in day out. In fact to get any sort of objective analysis in the main stream media is impossible as they are either owned by billionaires or influenced by the state. It is necessary to read widely of both independent journalists and other state media (bearing in mind their bias as well) like RT and TelsSur to get any sort of 'normal' view of the world. Why do you think there is virtually no reporting of the truth on main stream media about Palestine? - Just ask yourself how much influence Israel has in Government and main stream media circles.

As for the UK well the Circus is coming to a town near you very, very soon. Bannon is the Ring Meister and The Clown is his best boy - at present filling his cabinet with "useful idiots".

Don't be fooled, although clearly most of you have been, - this is a right wing coup. Your NHS will go, the schools, (but not the public schools) already part privatised will be completely turned into "academies" and "free schools" over which you no longer have any say or control. The Clown will spend more on the police - but only so The Circus can keep you well under control. And from across the pond, The Trumpster smiles down at his new best friend. 3 yrs ago we knew Brexit was a coup and now the ring is almost closed, the lights are going on in the tent and soon the show will begin.

This is partly the conclusion i am coming to.The give away are "the useful idiots" he has appointed to his cabinet.

 

[farmerm]

It is, like Old Faithful and night following day, an absolute given that you will come back with a 'So you are saying...' post which attempts to ascribe words and sentiments plainly not written.

For the benefit of the terminally thick, it is undemocratic to oppose a democratic VOTE.

What is undemocratic is forcing through a no deal WTO Brexit which was not the mandate sold to voters during the leave campaign. The margin was far from overwhelming and a significant number of undecided voters where swayed by the "easiest deal in history" lies. Had the referendum question been "should we leave the EU with no deal and on WTO terms or remain in the EU" the result would have been at least 52:48 in the remain direction.

I agree BBC bias is getting worse and programmes on some topics have become unwatchable. The BBC is both a driver of certain bias but also reflection of bias in our Urban centric society.