BCMS ending

traineefarmer

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Mixed Farmer
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Mid Norfolk
BCMS and CTS have always been pretty reliable systems, easy to use and the people at the end of the phone are friendly and helpful even when you have personally made an almighty cock up that they have to fix for you.

I hope the same team will be running whatever replaces it. Given the government's reputation for IT systems, it will be nice to chat to a friendly Cumbrian when it inevitably goes horribly wrong.
 
ive seen nothing about this where is the info coming from?

we've had all the bumf about it for a while

apparently someone somewhere has decided because cts is 25 years old its out of date and needs replaced

why?

f**k knows!

anyway, the scottish one starts on 4th october and has basically been added on to the already existing scotEID site. so "hopefully" it'll be a relatively painless change over

i've no idea if england and wales have their own versions of scotEID already or if they are building new systems from scratch? if its the latter, then no doubt it'll be accompanied by the usual clusterf**k

as for the system, the only change i can see is if you sell privately you have to put in the holding number of where your cattle are going when you put in an off movement. markets and abatoirs will still do that for you
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Oh cariad, what was I thinking about?
Deepest apologies!

Amazingly she is 81 today

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gov never heard the expression 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
Sadly doesn't work too well with software. 25 year old software is rather old and likely written to run on hardware no longer manufactured by people who are long since retired using software libraries long since discontinued and replaced. The end website you actually interact with is just a thin skin that can be made to look snazzy with a new colour scheme. The back end making it work is often highly complex.

That's what gets IT programmes a bad name. The government of the day kicks the can down the road because they know it will open a massive can of worms. Before you know it, you've got something 25 years old and clinging to life on ancient hardware that no one dares touch.
 

Top Tip.

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Location
highland
Bcms was an accident waiting to happen,very outdated software and creaking at the seams. Scotgov want to get these things into their own hands so it was seen as an opportune time by the devolved hierarchy to bring matters under their own control. Scoteid who are taking over the Scottish end of things have a very good rep and the girls in Huntly are equally as friendly as the Cumbrian girls.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
gov never heard the expression 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'


There's a ridiculous amount of people employed at bcms.

I remember hearing a statistic about the number of people employed by Bcms and the Australian cattle tracing system and the amount of cattle being managed. It was a eye opener.

If we stuck to your if it ain't broke don't fix it theory we wouldn't progress much?
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
There's a ridiculous amount of people employed at bcms.

I remember hearing a statistic about the number of people employed by Bcms and the Australian cattle tracing system and the amount of cattle being managed. It was a eye opener.

If we stuck to your if it ain't broke don't fix it theory we wouldn't progress much?
would the Oz system worked if we gave it over to the devolved govs?
 
Wot 'appens when stock cross the border?

We bought tack sheep from Sedgemoor a few years ago, and I entered the tag numbers given on the invoice and movement license.
When we came to sell, the tags were scanned and were ..... Scottish. :rolleyes:
Auctioneers didn't want to know, so I phoned ScotEid. As said, they were very helpful. But the holding which consigned these sheep had had NO off movements recorded for several years.

So when I explained these animals were now in Cornwall, ready to go fat, having come in via Somerset but wearing holding of birth Scottish tartan tags - the phone went very quiet.

With no 'Off' movements logged, the holding these sheep were born on must have a lot of berluddy sheep by now then.

:ROFLMAO::rolleyes::rolleyes::ROFLMAO::rolleyes:
 

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