"Be careful whose advice you pay for"

Man_in_black

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Livestock Farmer
I would say the best advice you'll get in life you won't need to pay for, usually comes from our elders :)

Until elders turns into elderly & they start
I would say the best advice you'll get in life you won't need to pay for, usually comes from our elders :)

You mean once I get old, really old, people will finally start listening to me??
 
I would say the best advice you'll get in life you won't need to pay for, usually comes from our elders :)

:LOL::ROFLMAO:

My Granddad made a fortune from nothing.

But he was broken hearted when herbicides became available. He had spent 20 years killing every weed with hoes, ploughs, rogueing etc.

My Grandad's cousin never got over the invention of the front end loader, he played tennis until into his 80's & was superfit. So in the days of hessain sacks & mucking out by hand & pitch forking bales he was a superman. He even drained a 5 acre field with a grey fergie, single furrow plough & a trenching spade. The invention of the front loader made him just another Man.

Dad could not understand why I wan't to grow veg on raised beds & cover them with insect netting or why I wanted to have a self replacing composite sheep flock. Or spray potatoes every 8 days for blight.

I was lucky to have my Grandad & Dad and learned lots from them. But if my nephew decides to farm & has some ideas I will be pleased to trial them with him.
 
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Bill the Bass

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Livestock Farmer
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Cumbria
My Dad’s favourite bit of advice to me is ‘it’ll not work’. Time and time again for every fresh idea I have. It becomes tiresome, but perhaps it’s just retribution for all the times I ignored is wise council in the past?

They are a pain but we will miss them when they’re gone. No one will ever help you more in such an unconditional way.
 

Longlowdog

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
One of my all time favourite songs. I subject my 'new fangled modern world' nieces to it regularly. It is just about the only information that I regard as suitable to be taken at face value.
If you are a new to farming farmer you can be assaulted by snake oil salesmen. I learned early on in this game to listen to them but never buy on the spot. A bit of research and bouncing ideas around on media such as this forum can allow an informed decision.
The only problem is...I'm now getting a bit older and if I tell my kids to 'go canny' they regard that as an old way of thinking and plunge headlong at stuff almost as retribution for attempting to offer advice. 'Don't you know we live for today Old Man' is something I hear quite regularly.
 

DartmoorEwe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yelverton, UK
One of my favourite records. Although the words of advice aren't those of Baz Luhrmann -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/a...-woman-responsible-wisdom-baz-luhrmanns-wear/

Be careful of whose advice you pay for is one thing, being good at deciphering, understanding and accepting that advice is a totally different subject......

Every day is a school day.

Thanks everyone for the posts. I still don't know whose advice I should pay for but I love the collective wisdom of TFF. Perhaps the best advice is like blood - given free.
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
bit more context needed.....
is this a trace element question in the stock?
needing a new truck?
or a personal demons worry?

My advice (ha!) is to be as 'Strider', .....take your own counsel at need.
(but go not to the elves for advice)
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
I still like the advice-cum-observation in one of the later books in The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Galaxy trilogy:

"There is an art, or rather, a knack, to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground, and miss."

I've yet to acquire the skill of missing.


"This isn't flying. It's falling, with style!";)
 

DartmoorEwe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yelverton, UK
I've been making it up as I go along for 5 years and the sheep are looking good.

Last week I went to an AHDB course called "forage fit for the future". I learned a lot and on one occasion the agronomist dug a hole to assess compaction, he suggested we do the same. His hole took 30 seconds to dig; mine took 30 minutes. He suggested we fill the hole with water and time how long it takes for the water level to drop 1". I gave up waiting.

I could get the agronomist to come here and give some tailor made advice but if you don't spend it you don't have to earn it so the advise has to pay for itself.

So, on a per acre basis, how much is an agronomist worth to a sheep farm?
 

Jameshenry

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Location
Cornwall
I've been making it up as I go along for 5 years and the sheep are looking good.

Last week I went to an AHDB course called "forage fit for the future". I learned a lot and on one occasion the agronomist dug a hole to assess compaction, he suggested we do the same. His hole took 30 seconds to dig; mine took 30 minutes. He suggested we fill the hole with water and time how long it takes for the water level to drop 1". I gave up waiting.

I could get the agronomist to come here and give some tailor made advice but if you don't spend it you don't have to earn it so the advise has to pay for itself.

So, on a per acre basis, how much is an agronomist worth to a sheep farm?
If you're on Dartmoor i wouldn't bother with an agronomist, spend the money on sea sand or lime
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
I've been making it up as I go along for 5 years and the sheep are looking good.

Last week I went to an AHDB course called "forage fit for the future". I learned a lot and on one occasion the agronomist dug a hole to assess compaction, he suggested we do the same. His hole took 30 seconds to dig; mine took 30 minutes. He suggested we fill the hole with water and time how long it takes for the water level to drop 1". I gave up waiting.

I could get the agronomist to come here and give some tailor made advice but if you don't spend it you don't have to earn it so the advise has to pay for itself.

So, on a per acre basis, how much is an agronomist worth to a sheep farm?

You do not need an agronomist on a sheep farm.
A good therapist perhaps.......
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
The only problem is...I'm now getting a bit older and if I tell my kids to 'go canny' they regard that as an old way of thinking and plunge headlong at stuff almost as retribution for attempting to offer advice. 'Don't you know we live for today Old Man' is something I hear quite regularly.

Ah yes, the YOLO generation... Come across one or two I am sorry to say.

Live fast on credit and worry later! But we know who will end up paying for them:mad:
 

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