Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
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Why do they weigh them live first ?They weigh the liveweight as they hop off the ramp, and again once killed and bled, it's been very interesting to see the screen where those numbers are displayed side by side for each animal as they go past... then the halves are weighed and ticketed before they enter the coolstore.
One half usually weighs 2.5 kg more than the other.
(I work there)
As you could tell, mine weren't exactly empty, but their scales are very close to telling the truth#59 tipped my scales at 646kg two days prior.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
I think they weigh them all before slaughter at Dovecote Park, for everyone’s benefit. A guy I know said it was quite an eye opener seeing the difference between breeds how they kill out, it made him change what he bought a bit. You’ll be getting a true empty weight as well if they are weighed on the way up the slaughter line
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Why are you talking the beef price down so much by quoting out of spec cattle prices as base price @beefandsleep
??The base price for in spec cattle is still £3.65 kilo for steers and £3.70 for heifers, not great but no where near as bad as you are making the trade out to be!
Beef and lamb ( other than mince etc ) isn't selling as people don't eat heavy meals in this weather!
Good news is apparently the price of chicken meat might be going upwards.
Farmer1001
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Based on @Kiwi Pete prices he is getting equivalent of £2.70kg d/w, not sure what the comparable uk grade is? Bring on a NZ FT deal...
pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
I know they dropped it 5p on Friday, but don’t know where it was to start with. Probably about 3.52 at a guess going on the woodhead base.
Ive seen pictures of his cattle they would be O and maybe some R grades and easily 3 maybe even 4 fat grades. Doesnt make a difference there though all beef is paid on weight no confirmation grades or upper and lower weight ranges
haymaker80
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- Location
- Stafford
In spec bonus on top of that or is that the price for in spec?
pine_guy
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- Location
- North Cumbria
No that’s the price. They will take anything though as long as it kills about 270kg I think. Premium on Herefords if you are in the scheme.
beefandsleep
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- Location
- Staffordshire
Why are you talking the beef price down so much by quoting out of spec cattle prices as base price @beefandsleep
The base price for in spec cattle is still £3.65 kilo for steers and £3.70 for heifers, not great but no where near as bad as you are making the trade out to be!
Beef and lamb ( other than mince etc ) isn't selling as people don't eat heavy meals in this weather!
Good news is apparently the price of chicken meat might be going upwards.
I made it quite clear. I think the trade is very bad actually. If it drops much more combined with increasing feed prices and forage and straw shortages I think store producers are in for a dire autumn.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Cheers
I see they tacked on the EQ premium even though there is no mention on the sheet. Schedule price is $5.00/kilo, I see bull has just crept up 10c to $5/kg as well so my fat little bulls can go too, will be a bit in them at that $$$
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
In real terms its prob down 20pk on last year.
Forage will be short next winter for sure!
Forward store producers will be hit possible but stirk trade yesterday was red hot for anything half decent and/ or suckler bred.
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Don't forget mind that in NZ they don't have the FA costs that we do and neither do farmers over there pay for things like transport for animals that go straight deadweight as the factory covers this cost.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Bull has sat around $4.80 and just rising this week to $5
Prime beef went from $5.30 to $5
Still the whole system reflects the end price, so a reasonable amount falls out the bottom, quite happy with the margins this year for cattle despite the m. bovis debacle
Yep - my costs are certainly pretty minimal. You may not have caught up with my surprise "audit" that I may have mentioned on "are farmers pushovers" thread?
He may have had me confused with a proper farmer
Gold shareholders will get an 85cpkg dividend over these prices too but still, whole different systems for whole different markets.
That's part of the reason why we don't pay cartage costs, we own the factories...
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
I’m always very positive but I think we are en route for a crisis this winter
Cattle price often drops just before school summer holidays - with that and a lack of demand for roasting and stewing meat because of the warm weather - it's not really a surprise.
What is good news is that according to the NBA there has been no drop in killing numbers recently.
What is good news is that according to the NBA there has been no drop in killing numbers recently.
Just had a look back at this time last year Woodheads were 8p more than now, feed barley was over £30/t less than now, and I'd got some new crop barley straw in quads for £65t delivered
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
Well no one likes paying tax anyway...Just had a look back at this time last year Woodheads were 8p more than now, feed barley was over £30/t less than now, and I'd got some new crop barley straw in quads for £65t delivered
[QUOI cE="Full of bull(s), post: 5294546, member: 43172"]I think they weigh them all before slaughter at Dovecote Park, for everyone’s benefit. A guy I know said it was quite an eye opener seeing the difference between breeds how they kill out, it made him change what he bought a bit. You’ll be getting a true empty weight as well if they are weighed on the way up the slaughter line[/QUOTE]
Yes i can see the benefits to the supplier , they must have a different attitude to their suppliers in nz - bit smoke
and mirrors here , might be a bit awkward with market cattle though
Yes i can see the benefits to the supplier , they must have a different attitude to their suppliers in nz - bit smoke
and mirrors here , might be a bit awkward with market cattle though
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yeah the difference is the processor business model as I said, the meat and milk processors are co-ops with farmers on the shareholder list and boards - it makes all the difference.
Hence they are good to deal with, and generally very few surprises as processing capability handles normal peak volumes fairly easily
Current lamb price reflects this different approach, P lamb sitting around $7.60 which is very good, especially relative to COP.