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Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
What other industry other than farming would talk down their prices like above??

Utter madness and MUST stop!!

£5 kilo deadweight is the min sheep prices need to be in the 12 month cycle!

Farm input prices rise year on year and so MUST farm gate prices of livestock/ produce etc if the industry is to have a sustainable future!

2027 subs are gone, the new ELMS scheme will be an utter disaster for smaller family farms ( esp livestock ones ) will you still be happy with £5 kilo then??? aye right:rolleyes:
Every industry knows what prices the market will stand for their product. Push it too far and demand will drop, or the competition will undercut you.
I agree that prices sub £4 earlier in the season were a waste of time, but if you cannot produce for less than £5 I fear you will be disappointed, at least some of the time.
Ranting that it must be more won't make it so. Farmers will keep prices under £5 in peak season because if they got near that, over production would follow.
Having said all that, world prices mean the future is currently positive, as long as we're not sold down the river with trade deal tariffs. But ranting won't alter world prices, for good or bad.
 
Location
Devon
Every industry knows what prices the market will stand for their product. Push it too far and demand will drop, or the competition will undercut you.
I agree that prices sub £4 earlier in the season were a waste of time, but if you cannot produce for less than £5 I fear you will be disappointed, at least some of the time.
Ranting that it must be more won't make it so. Farmers will keep prices under £5 in peak season because if they got near that, over production would follow.
Having said all that, world prices mean the future is currently positive, as long as we're not sold down the river with trade deal tariffs. But ranting won't alter world prices, for good or bad.
No one is ranting so stop making rubbish like that up trying to make yourself look clever!

No industry talks its prices down like some in the farming industry do!

Other industry's work out their cop and then price their product price to cover this and leave a sensible profit margin unlike farming where a few seem to be on a race to the bottom!

If subs go ( which they will ) lamb prices will have to be £5 a kilo min, your fooling yourself if you think otherwise!
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
No one is ranting so stop making rubbish like that up trying to make yourself look clever!

No industry talks its prices down like some in the farming industry do!

Other industry's work out their cop and then price their product price to cover this and leave a sensible profit margin unlike farming where a few seem to be on a race to the bottom!

If subs go ( which they will ) lamb prices will have to be £5 a kilo min, your fooling yourself if you think otherwise!
If you're not ranting Guth, why do you need an exclamation mark after every sentence?🙂
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
to be honest what would you pay a tradesman if you didnt know better £20 hour ? we all know its nearer £50 hr plus call out , all meat reared outside beef/ sheep price needs to be double and if joe public wants properly reared food and sustainable environment control they better suck it up .some women pay £40 a week just at the nail bar before we even get started on the hairdresser. Even a pint of beer is nearly a fiver, This is 2020 not 1980
 
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Shebb90

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Location
Devon
Every industry knows what prices the market will stand for their product. Push it too far and demand will drop, or the competition will undercut you.
I agree that prices sub £4 earlier in the season were a waste of time, but if you cannot produce for less than £5 I fear you will be disappointed, at least some of the time.
Ranting that it must be more won't make it so. Farmers will keep prices under £5 in peak season because if they got near that, over production would follow.
Having said all that, world prices mean the future is currently positive, as long as we're not sold down the river with trade deal tariffs. But ranting won't alter world prices, for good or bad.
I see both sides but I have to say I agree with guth. We can't can't keep going back wards in price on farms. I think some said earlier on here if lamb goes to dear they will swap well its seems simple to me put the price on everything up be level playing field then. At end of the day people got to eat and they got to realise that it cost a lot of money keep theses stock and I think a lot don't know that.
 
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Shebb90

Member
Location
Devon
to be honest what would you pay a tradesman if you didnt know better £20 hour ? we all know its nearer £50 hr plus call out , all meat reared outside beef/ sheep price needs to be double and if joe public wants properly reared food and sustainable environment control they better suck it up .some women pay £40 a week just at nail bar before we even get started about hairdresser. This is 2020 not 1980
Well said
 

GreenerGrass

Member
Location
Wilts
I have a lot of smaller breed lambs which are organic, always direct sell them in lamb boxes but if the prices are reasonable would be open to selling them deadweight as I have plenty left. 15-19kg carcass weight, but this is for private sales so not sure about the trimming everyone on here talks about!

What are my options (Wilts/somerset), and does anyone know prices. Don't want to take them to a market.
 

Jerry

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
Other industry's work out their cop and then price their product price to cover this and leave a sensible profit margin unlike farming where a few seem to be on a race to the bottom!
But not many industries work like farming.

I know my COP for lamb and grain.

But I have very limited outlets like most of us.

Sell live and take the risk on the day.

Sell dead at a price dictated to me.

Yes I can choose when to sell and that skill/decision making process is a vital part of my business........,

And one of the reasons I took the route of selling direct is to de-risk things. I can dictate the price as long as I have the quality.
 

hubbahubba

Member
Location
Sunny Glasgow
South Molton had the dearest trade in the SW this week!

SQQ a very impressive 236.1pk ( up 20pk on the week )

Well ahead of deadweight even at £4.95 kilo!
I would have to disagree. I tried both this week and dead ahead. 46/47kg at market lucky if there 45kg x 2.36kg is £106.20. Same lambs do 22kg dead at £4.90 £107.80. These are base prices obviously better grade lambs will achieve more on both fronts. Later have no haulage charge, less costs. Although no chance of name in paper.
 

Purli R

Member
Bentham last night overall avg £2.22
My crossbreds £2.45 avg and non FA mules £2.25.

Would have stood another pound without moaning but I will have to settle for that... 😁😁
Think the report said 3900 hoggs ,thats a fair show even for bentham. (y) How far roughly from mart are you? Its my local.
 

cattleman123

Member
Location
devon
No one is ranting so stop making rubbish like that up trying to make yourself look clever!

No industry talks its prices down like some in the farming industry do!

Other industry's work out their cop and then price their product price to cover this and leave a sensible profit margin unlike farming where a few seem to be on a race to the bottom!

If subs go ( which they will ) lamb prices will have to be £5 a kilo min, your fooling yourself if you think otherwise!
Guth you are on a Rant...every product has its price if lamb gets to dear they will just use something else...its a fact of life...calm down old boy calm down...what I or your good self say on here wont make a bit of difference to what happens
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I see both sides but I have to say I agree with guth. We can't can't keep going back wards in price on farms. I think some said earlier on here if lamb goes to dear they will swap well its seems simple to me put the price on everything up be level playing field then. At end of the day people got to eat and they got to realise that it cost a lot of money keep theses stock and I think a lot don't know that.
Can you tell me just how you intend to "put the price of everything up"?
And even if you could, how would you then stop people over producing and flooding the market because of favourable prices?
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Think the report said 3900 hoggs ,thats a fair show even for bentham. (y) How far roughly from mart are you? Its my local.
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81 mile from yard to auction. 3 deck six wheeler rolled in at 8.30 as I was going too the ring! Market was definitely full, not as full as the week before EID in September but still a good show of Hoggs!
 
Location
Devon
Guth you are on a Rant...every product has its price if lamb gets to dear they will just use something else...its a fact of life...calm down old boy calm down...what I or your good self say on here wont make a bit of difference to what happens
So anyone that doesn't agree with you or PBH is on a rant?


Utter BS!

The point of a forum is too discuss issues and that doesn't mean to claim everyone that doesn't agree with you are on a rant!

Lamb at £5 kilo deadweight is NOT too expensive for the consumer!

The days of cheap food are coming to an end!
 

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