Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Location
Devon
As I understand it they can only claim their wages if their employer has entered the scheme...I/e laid them off....otherwise they have to work
Company's can only claim the 80% if they fully shut down..

And it should be pointed out that no company's can yet even claim let alone pay the 80% wage cover, will be at least end of April into May before they will be able to do that!
 

muleman

Member
Your auctioneer is talking rubbish and is creating unnecassary suspicions and hatred between farmers and meat wholesalers;

1) Abattoir staff are failing to turn up or are refusing to work, if the abattoir closes they will still receive 80% of their income, so why should they put their families at risk? Therefore abattoirs are struggling to keep lines going.

2) To confirm this point all members of staff walked out of a poultry plant in Ireland today.

3) Would the auctioneer use his personal money to purchase £250,000 worth of lamb and fill a chiller for export, knowing full well the government may introduce further restrictions on movement overnight?

4) Abattoirs already have chillers full of lamb and ewes which were purchased at peak prices last week, which they are struggling to sell without taking a big hit.

Tell your auctioneer to concentrate on his own job as a few meat companies will be going bump soon and may take his mart with them. However, if he feels that the meat trade is lucrative maybe his mart should purchase an abattoir and show the rest how it is done. A few marts have done this in the past and we all know how it ended.
To be honest i agreed with cancelling the sale...if the meat isnt wanted and they are full its pointless having it, be best telling them to just let us know when you want some and we'll start up again.
 

andybk

Member
Location
Mendips Somerset
The majority of the European slaughter staff have left or are leaving. The others simply do not want to work when the government will guarantee that they will receive 80% of their wage, whilst sitting at home. Therefore the auctioneer was stirring sh17 and blaming meat wholesalers without any proof.

Farmers do trust processors that is the reason why so many have stuck two fingers up at the marts and have gone dead weight, with auctioneers behaving in this manner for once I fully support farmers for going direct, why pay commission and get messed about when you can send them in dead weight with prices guaranteed.

Having followed this thread for a few years it has become apparent that the marts create this distrust between farmers and wholesalers, in order to keep their gravy train running.
i sold deadweight for many years (lloyd maunders) who were honest and upfront ,would never consider going anywhere else (mike credland ? even got us into a new breed called charollais ) , even when i could have got more at mart (i had to drive past it on way to crediton)
we then went to other deadweight buyers when they shut and can honestly say i lost more money from bankruptcies and downright underhandedness that i will never sell direct again , and final straw , in particular F+M years (as mentioned many times above ) , thats was the thatcher / miners point with me , nearly every lamb i sold previously was E or U from pure charollais stock or dorset x char ,
APB sent me grading sheet after sheet of o and p lambs for those times (they were properly finished ) even some condemned with tapes (never had any before and my neighbour had the same deductions ) , made about £30 each :mad: , first market open after , we were near top for price and been mentioned in dispatches ever since , Farmers and their families have long memories like miners , APB , dont expect any favours from me i dont trust them one bit .
 
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Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Well something's wrong with the industry somewhere.ABP have been sat @£3.47 for weeks for cattle.yet shelves are empty,still no prise rise.when someone finds out there's horse meat in the mince the price rocketed.
Every excuse under the sun has been used to keep the beef job down and its all lies. If the shelves are empty wheres all the stockpiled brexit beef? Bullsh#t and lies from larry and Co. Lets stop sending any red meat for fortnight and see whats what.
 

jendan

Member
I just can’t work out what people are going to live on unless it’s beans on toast. Just popped into local spar after not being able to get milk at 10 this morning, nearly sold out of meat and milk again.
Hardly any beef and lamb left in Tesco tonight.Plenty pork,but no chicken apart from 3 organic at £13 each. Beans and soup all sold out..........and mars and snickers.
 
i sold deadweight for many years (lloyd maunders) who were honest and upfront ,would never consider going anywhere else (mike credland ? even got us into a new breed called charollais ) , even when i could have got more at mart (i had to drive past it on way to crediton)
we then went to other deadweight buyers when they shut and can honestly say i lost more money from bankruptcies and downright underhandedness that i will never sell direct again , and final straw , in particular F+M years , thats was the thatcher / miners point with me , nearly every lamb i sold was E or U from pure charollais stock or dorset x char previously ,
APB sent me grading sheet after sheet of o and p lambs for those years (they were properly finished ) even some condemed with tapes (never had any before and my neighbour had the same deductions ) , made about £30 each :mad: , first market open after , we were near top for price and been mentioned in dispatches ever since , Farmers and their families have long memories like miners , APB , dont expect any favours from me i dont trust them one bit .
I sent 240 lambs to ABP they agreed the price then changed it after the wagon had gone
 

neilo

Member
Location
Montgomeryshire
Most auctioneers thought sheep had got too dear anyway and a price adjustment was always going to happen. Most are on first name terms with the meat firms and send bought in/not sold animals to them so theres abit of bull s##t on all sides. We need both , to keep the other honest in reality. If firms had there way they would have less farmers with larger amounts of animals so they could control it all better , cattle jobs getting there already. Markets are a thorn in those prospects thankfully.
Er, don’t WE employ the auctioneers to act on OUR behalf? I thought that’s what they were drawing a healthy commission for....
 

Bairdy

Member
Location
Perth/Fife
Why are the shelves empty? Surely they have had enough time to sort themselves out . That is over a week now and the supermarket shelves are still empty ,the local butchers meanwhile are double shifting and putting on night shifts to ensure they have product on the shelves methinks the supermarket business model has broken down,just when it was needed most!!
Simply because the restaurant / cafe/takeaway sector has closed down which maybe accounts for 30% of total food consumed... This has to be taken up now by supermarkets. Hard to do in a short space of time.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Er, don’t WE employ the auctioneers to act on OUR behalf? I thought that’s what they were drawing a healthy commission for....
Yes but auctioneers no that prices have to be sustainable for the whole chain to be able to work. None of them wanted the trade to crash but what goes up must come down. Price adjustment, the shut down in france and closures here was a perfect storm , prices will recover if farmers dont panic. The main sheep men even new record prices every week couldnt last.
 
Company's can only claim the 80% if they fully shut down..

And it should be pointed out that no company's can yet even claim let alone pay the 80% wage cover, will be at least end of April into May before they will be able to do that!
Try milk....hours not days !

No one wants to see prices sky rocket no more than they want them to fall off a cliff.

Feed the nation yes, give it away very much less keen!
the sh!t will hit the fan over this 80% wages paid
It’s not quite as straightforward
There are several ways to calculate your average also I’m sure accounts email said it’s gross so tax ni pension contribution all to come off
 

@dlm

Member
The ongoing dw lw debate. A falling trade in lw resulting in buyers standing off bidding against each other just reminded me that around 25 years ago went to normandy. Ex villager moved there and he had a few sheep off us each year, and ended up mayor of his town. But he took us to a livestock market, it was a slaughter day sale, then all around ring and stands they had a key pad to bid so only auctioneer knew bid and price, and yes obviously auctioneer announced price to keep bidding, but sure @Clive will agree, a keypad that only requires a +1 or 2 option linked to auctioneers screen would be minimal set up and cost and retain anonyminity. Also there for store buying. Would make auctioneers life a lot easier, where they have to treat buyers well for fear of losing them and then lose a load of vendors, despite vendors saying they should toughen up and ignore them, then leave market when they have lost that buyer!! Store sales has attraction from people not bidding as they know mr x is always cash rich so no point bidding against him, or no point bidding against neighbour as he can have this lot then i will have next. Such a simple system and saw this as said 25 years ago when mobile phones were barely known!!
 

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