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What I have never understood is when I approach an arable man to graze covers off and they say no they'd rather pay to mulch it than let me graze it (plus I'd offer them money for it!) when asked for a reason it's always the same "we don't need the mither". When I do the fencing, I look after the sheep, I move the strip fence, I change batteries, if they escape they just pick up the phone and I come put the sheep back, all they have too do is smile and take my money when I leave I really can't see where the mither for them is?! Sometimes I really wonder if it's time subsidies on lowland ground was severely slashed!!
I don't understand what arable farmers do, other than sit on a tractor two months per year? Their agronomist deals with all the thinking anyway.... :D
 

T7.wab

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Mixed Farmer
What I have never understood is when I approach an arable man to graze covers off and they say no they'd rather pay to mulch it than let me graze it (plus I'd offer them money for it!) when asked for a reason it's always the same "we don't need the mither". When I do the fencing, I look after the sheep, I move the strip fence, I change batteries, if they escape they just pick up the phone and I come put the sheep back, all they have too do is smile and take my money when I leave I really can't see where the mither for them is?! Sometimes I really wonder if it's time subsidies on lowland ground was severely slashed!!
Maybe the man before said the same and didnt bother and never did pay
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
I don't understand what arable farmers do, other than sit on a tractor two months per year? Their agronomist deals with all the thinking anyway.... :D
There you have the problem , when i dealt with farmers who directly took their own decisions , never had a problem , now most of them wont get in a tractor without agronomist say so , kickbacks on chems , and having to deal with unknown issues meaning they might actually have to do some work , what they dont realise is sheep will remove a hell of a lot of weeds for free , and gently compact soil around roots so grain is less affected by drought . even grazing forward cereals as long as lambs are removed in wet and not grazed too tight will mean a better crop down the line .
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I think your right . A few of the bigger sheep men are taking on 'ELS' and grazing them for not too much cost . The biggest cost tot them is the time putting up the electric fencing .
There you have the problem , when i dealt with farmers who directly took their own decisions , never had a problem , now most of them wont get in a tractor without agronomist say so , kickbacks on chems , and having to deal with unknown issues meaning they might actually have to do some work , what they dont realise is sheep will remove a hell of a lot of weeds for free , and gently compact soil around roots so grain is less affected by drought . even grazing forward cereals as long as lambs are removed in wet and not grazed too tight will mean a better crop down the line .
We do plenty of that! Little lightweight cheviot and sbf lambs Christmas to the first week of February do wonders for forward cereals! But you need too be quick on if it turns wet like you say.
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
If your going to grow cover crops, you might as well do the job properly and grow stubble turnips for tack sheep . Biggest con out, these expensive cover crop mixes .
Don't think stubble turnip applies as a cover or catch crop for greening rules though? That being said one of my arable men has a crap seed supplier who keeps getting the mixes wrong! ? Happened the last two years now, forage rye, vetch & stubble turnips. I almost have too force the sheep too eat it. They know it's a cock up! ?
 

JSmith

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Livestock Farmer
Has anyone sold any entire ram lambs as stores yet , just weaning some zwartbles , dont want my pants pulled down , was thinking with festival around corner might be good to cash them now , most around 40-50kg not finished quite
Get them gone now, worth more this side of the festival than the other!! Black lives matter, but they might not matter as much in three weeks time!!


Applies to sheep only, obviously
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
There you have the problem , when i dealt with farmers who directly took their own decisions , never had a problem , now most of them wont get in a tractor without agronomist say so , kickbacks on chems , and having to deal with unknown issues meaning they might actually have to do some work , what they dont realise is sheep will remove a hell of a lot of weeds for free , and gently compact soil around roots so grain is less affected by drought . even grazing forward cereals as long as lambs are removed in wet and not grazed too tight will mean a better crop down the line .
So grazing livestock will reduce the need for sprays in the long run :unsure: Bet agronomist says no:);):ROFLMAO:
 

ford4000

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Livestock Farmer
Location
north Wales
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Great Trade today, 43kg entire lambs made £105 and 40kg females £92! Average of £102 and £2.41/kg
 

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