Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Anymulewilldo]

So the moral of the story is either you bought them right or they are tight arses?
Which way round is it?

I gave them £6-£14 more than last year for the same lambs with the same issues with keeping them alive once they arrive! Personally I think they are just being over tight. But then I would say that wouldn’t I!!

 

[hally]

Nothing changes, my old chap used to go Oban and the islands 30 years ago an he use to love to explain the concept to them! They must of cottoned on it was worth while, he came back with a red an white collie bitch pup off uist once, had her well into her teens, bloody good dog she was!!

Been there done that, used to go to Fort William, bought 400 blackie lambs of a guy and got 50p in luck,( in total not each) earlier in the week had been buying swale ewes at Middleton in Teasdale and got £10/ head back

 

[Anymulewilldo]

The first cattle we dropped off in lockdown in March I told the yard man to put a tenner luck with each beast but I was told the office wasn’t handling cash no way of doing it unless you staple it to the passport

Bentham were deducting luck as cash advance from hoggs in the spring. Not sure how it was given too the buyers.
Must admit I’m a bugger for putting 50 hoggs in the ring at once and standing in front of certain buyers with a £20 note held out. It’s amazing how it draws another couple of bids when the job is a bit rough. Add £1 per lamb on for 40p back. Works for me! And making sure that the jockey gets £2 every now and then when I’ve had a flyer seems too keep them going too.

 

[Electricfencer]

When I'm buying mule ewe lambs and someone coming and gives the luck I like to say "thankyou very much, that will pay to shear them tomorrow". the look on there face after they realize all that trimming and dipping was a waste of time.
Skipton deducted the luck from the pay cheque this years so wasn't so much fun counting it as I drive home.

 

[Northern territory]

Mainly hill bred? toying with the idea of looking in at Longtown tomorrow, might not be as fancy as some but only 200 in.

Yep hill types. Not much grow about them but still plenty in my opinion. Some of the bulls might have been worth a punt but looked slow growers to me.

 

[Northern territory]

Farndale?

 

[casper74]

Thirsk Auction Market - Weekly Prime Stock Sale Thursday 22nd October 2020

Forward today 307 Cattle, 1419 Sheep & 69 Pigs.

125 Prime Heifers to 275.5ppk or £1695.47average 237.96ppk

69 Prime Steers to 267.5ppk or £1790.67 average 2010.5ppk

88 Prime Young Bulls to 257.5ppk or £1636.71 average 193.1ppk

25 Prime Cull Cattle to 159.5ppk or £1260.05 average 112.86ppk

1073 New Season Lambs sold to 287ppk or £141 average 196ppk

340 Ewes sold to £111 average £63.61

43 Prime Pigs to 100ppk or £103 average 80.99ppk

24 Sows & Boars to 35ppk or £99.96 average 33.29ppk

Prime Cattle

A fantastic trade leaving Thirsk once again top of the tree, with half of the cattle passing the 240ppk mark and no less than 28 head passing 260ppk. Quality was very mixed particularly steers having a detrimental effect on the average for this section.
Top Price Heifer: 275.5ppkg for Limousin X from TG&EV Warriner, Swainsea Barn Farm purchased by J Penny & Sons, Rawdon.
Best Grossing Heifer: £1695.47 for Limousin X from Cole Hill Farm Ltd, Hartlepool purchased by Hartshead Meats Ltd, Moseley.
Top Price Steer: 267.5ppkg twice from Cole Hill Farm & Upper Coton Farms for two lovely bullocks purchased by Mr N Dalby & R Pearson & Son.
Best Grossing Steer: Upper Cotton made top grossing bullock at £1695.47 purchased by Hartshead Meat Ltd.
Prime Young Bulls
A shortage of numbers with trade for all classes exceptional with several black and white over 200ppkg. Many could have been sold to advantage.
Top Price Bull: 257.5ppk for Limousin X from AS & S Kemp & Son, Whitwell Farm purchased by R Pearson & Son, Bradford.
Best Grossing Bull: £1636 for Limousin X again from AS & S Kemp & Son, also purchased by R Pearson & Son

Prime Lambs

A shortage of the best lambs forward for the quantity of buyers ringside for top quality lambs. Best bred lambs would be £30 per head more than the same weight as plainer grass lambs.
TR & MJ Beadle was the top price of the day with a wonderful run of lambs topping at 287ppk purchased by A Wright & Sons, Boston.
Top price head of the day came from The Alton Family, who sold a fantastic run of lambs to £141.00.
Not far behind was M Farrar who sold some lovely Beltex X lambs to £137.50.

 

[Skintagain]

Been there done that, used to go to Fort William, bought 400 blackie lambs of a guy and got 50p in luck,( in total not each) earlier in the week had been buying swale ewes at Middleton in Teasdale and got £10/ head back

Aye what does that tell you

 

[Northern territory]

Thirsk Auction Market - Weekly Prime Stock Sale Thursday 22nd October 2020

Forward today 307 Cattle, 1419 Sheep & 69 Pigs.

125 Prime Heifers to 275.5ppk or £1695.47average 237.96ppk

69 Prime Steers to 267.5ppk or £1790.67 average 2010.5ppk

88 Prime Young Bulls to 257.5ppk or £1636.71 average 193.1ppk

25 Prime Cull Cattle to 159.5ppk or £1260.05 average 112.86ppk

1073 New Season Lambs sold to 287ppk or £141 average 196ppk

340 Ewes sold to £111 average £63.61

43 Prime Pigs to 100ppk or £103 average 80.99ppk

24 Sows & Boars to 35ppk or £99.96 average 33.29ppk

Prime Cattle

A fantastic trade leaving Thirsk once again top of the tree, with half of the cattle passing the 240ppk mark and no less than 28 head passing 260ppk. Quality was very mixed particularly steers having a detrimental effect on the average for this section.
Top Price Heifer: 275.5ppkg for Limousin X from TG&EV Warriner, Swainsea Barn Farm purchased by J Penny & Sons, Rawdon.
Best Grossing Heifer: £1695.47 for Limousin X from Cole Hill Farm Ltd, Hartlepool purchased by Hartshead Meats Ltd, Moseley.
Top Price Steer: 267.5ppkg twice from Cole Hill Farm & Upper Coton Farms for two lovely bullocks purchased by Mr N Dalby & R Pearson & Son.
Best Grossing Steer: Upper Cotton made top grossing bullock at £1695.47 purchased by Hartshead Meat Ltd.
Prime Young Bulls
A shortage of numbers with trade for all classes exceptional with several black and white over 200ppkg. Many could have been sold to advantage.
Top Price Bull: 257.5ppk for Limousin X from AS & S Kemp & Son, Whitwell Farm purchased by R Pearson & Son, Bradford.
Best Grossing Bull: £1636 for Limousin X again from AS & S Kemp & Son, also purchased by R Pearson & Son

Prime Lambs

A shortage of the best lambs forward for the quantity of buyers ringside for top quality lambs. Best bred lambs would be £30 per head more than the same weight as plainer grass lambs.
TR & MJ Beadle was the top price of the day with a wonderful run of lambs topping at 287ppk purchased by A Wright & Sons, Boston.
Top price head of the day came from The Alton Family, who sold a fantastic run of lambs to £141.00.
Not far behind was M Farrar who sold some lovely Beltex X lambs to £137.50.

Bulls looked down didn’t they.

 

[muleman]

Some people appear to have forgotten about giving luck money in past few months, I have 4 names who I’ve bought cattle from in Kirkby, no luck since March, yet before they would come and hand it out happily and want to be your buddy!!!!!

We weren't even allowed in the auction in the springtime so it proved very difficult to give luck out, when we were allowed in the auction said we hadnt in any circumstances to mingle with the buyers and that the auction werent handling cash.
We thought we'd best do our bit to keep everyone safe and stop the spread of the virus!
Best thing about this whole job was the luck job... having said that if things ever get back to normal and people are wanting the backdated luck they will get it!

 

[Mc115reed]

Some people appear to have forgotten about giving luck money in past few months, I have 4 names who I’ve bought cattle from in Kirkby, no luck since March, yet before they would come and hand it out happily and want to be your buddy!!!!!

I don’t pay luck and never will.. I think it’s embarrassing tbh a grown man stood by his sheep waving a £5 note around like his life depends on it and nobody will buy his sheep if he doesn’t is just too cringeworthy ...

 

[Werzle]

I don’t pay luck and never will.. I think it’s embarrassing tbh a grown man stood by his sheep waving a £5 note around like his life depends on it and nobody will buy his sheep if he doesn’t is just too cringeworthy ...

No more cringeworthy than a buyer bidding another £100 to grab a £10 luck like its a gold bar. I like like luck but as a token thankyou rather than bundles as a bribe, carmarthen used to give buyers a pound for every thousand spent which bought the tea's. It was a tiny amount but i liked the gesture. I always give luck but never go looking for it, its not for everybody.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I don’t pay luck and never will.. I think it’s embarrassing tbh a grown man stood by his sheep waving a £5 note around like his life depends on it and nobody will buy his sheep if he doesn’t is just too cringeworthy ...

There’s nothing wrong with giving luck money, it’s a gesture of goodwill and a tradition....I always give luck money on finished stock, but only after they’ve been sold....I would never chase after anyone for luck, if they don’t want to leave it then it’s up to them

 

[Anymulewilldo]

No more cringeworthy than a buyer bidding another £100 to grab a £10 luck like its a gold bar. I like like luck but as a token thankyou rather than bundles as a bribe, carmarthen used to give buyers a pound for every thousand spent which bought the tea's. It was a tiny amount but i liked the gesture. I always give luck but never go looking for it, its not for everybody.

Now that is a habit all auctions should keep going! Pay on the day and get £2 in the thousand back. The markets around me don’t bother and look funny at you when you suggest paying on the day bonus. Up north it is paid before you have finished making the cheque out. They appreciate you buying and paying more than they do round here somehow.

Typical that fat lambs have dropped this week. Just been too look at a bunch out on keep and they are bouncing around the field! Plenty of grass, no pressure too fit more in like normal years so they might as well stop another 3 weeks

 

[ImLost]

I don't get this luck thing. If I go to buy anything from anywhere, I don't expect the seller to turn round and say "thanks for buying here's some of your money back" why not just ask for less in the first place. In the same way, I don't expect to agree a deal with someone, shake hands on it (or being the winning bidder in an auction) and then have the customer turn round and say "now I've bought off you, I want some of my money back" seems completely pointless.

Can someone explain what I am missing?

 

[Optimus]

Just looking at prices of clean cattle we sent away 10 days ago.notice they hadn't paid the premium on the Angus cattle.should of been £4 came back at least 20p less.not impressed!

 

[serf]

I don't get this luck thing. If I go to buy anything from anywhere, I don't expect the seller to turn round and say "thanks for buying here's some of your money back" why not just ask for less in the first place. In the same way, I don't expect to agree a deal with someone, shake hands on it (or being the winning bidder in an auction) and then have the customer turn round and say "now I've bought off you, I want some of my money back" seems completely pointless.

Can someone explain what I am missing?

Suppose it incetivises dealers who buy for other folks to bid a bit more because they get to keep the luck them selves , soon end up with a wedge on that job

 

[Northern territory]

I know nothing out of the farmers weekly can be taken as gospel but they seem to have deadweight averages well above what is reality. For example R4l deadweight steers 381. Is this bigger players getting higher prices, Scottish prices higher?

 

[Werzle]

I don't get this luck thing. If I go to buy anything from anywhere, I don't expect the seller to turn round and say "thanks for buying here's some of your money back" why not just ask for less in the first place. In the same way, I don't expect to agree a deal with someone, shake hands on it (or being the winning bidder in an auction) and then have the customer turn round and say "now I've bought off you, I want some of my money back" seems completely pointless.

Can someone explain what I am missing?

Your over thinking it and confusing discount with luck. Luck is an old fashioned thankyou between vendor and buyer, abit like here's a fiver to buy the kids some sweets for buying my £1000 beast. Its no more than a thankyou gesture. Deals are sweetened all time with tokens, farmers will pay 100k for a tractor but play hell if they dont get a pair of overalls thrown in the deal or seat covers with a 25k truck!

 

[Benr]

Just looking at prices of clean cattle we sent away 10 days ago.notice they hadn't paid the premium on the Angus cattle.should of been £4 came back at least 20p less.not impressed!

If it’s Foyles, you get the bonus about 3 weeks later