Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Location
Devon
Can you blame them if their on roots? I take it you understand how the knife going through soil/faeces then spread’s e-coli through the carcass making it worthless/condemned so it’s for the producers benefit to have them done unless you want lambs binned

I do not have a problem with it, i was just pointing out that this is very early for them to be asking farmers to clip them, quite clear why that is and that is because of the extreme and long period of wet weather we have had non stop all winter untill the last week or so.

As pointed out above, ABP clip both lambs and cattle on the line, certainly for cattle it is the safest way of clipping them let alone the cheapest way of clipping them!
 

casper74

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Quite agree, quite agree. But it’s the shearling men who push for those Bonny faces. As soon as the BPS is reduced I can see a lot of those “as long as they look nice and don’t lose a fortune” type buyers having too have a serious re-think.



Anyway before I get told off for digressing, I’ve heard store lambs in Bentham were VERY VERY dear!

I saw the lambs there!!!! I came away quickly despite Dougall’s best efforts to get me to stay!!!!
 

Optimus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North of Perth
I do not have a problem with it, i was just pointing out that this is very early for them to be asking farmers to clip them, quite clear why that is and that is because of the extreme and long period of wet weather we have had non stop all winter untill the last week or so.

As pointed out above, ABP clip both lambs and cattle on the line, certainly for cattle it is the safest way of clipping them let alone the cheapest way of clipping them!
They still charge for it though.can't mind what it is for cattle £5?
McIntosh Donald have just started to clip cattle.charge £2-£10. Send a decker load of cattle that are all bad.that's a fair bit of coin your losing out on.
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I saw the lambs there!!!! I came away quickly despite Dougall’s best efforts to get me to stay!!!!
1) ask nicely
2) pretend he didn’t hear first reply, ask nicely again
3) blatantly ignore both first responses and suggest it would be silly not to come for a look
4) try plucking the heartstrings that he doesn’t want too be left in thee on his own and needs the help
5) ask nicely again
6) offer too buy you a brew if you come into the store lamb ring
7) “Right, that’s grand, I’ll start in a few minutes so get yourself a good spot” walk off quickly before the reply can be formulated.

He has been known too ring up 4 times for 1 sale trying steps 1-6!! Got too smile about it! 😂😂
 

mghley

Member
Location
Derbyshire
They shouldn’t be clipped untill there hung up! What is the point of clipping the protection off there bellies for them to then lie down in crap and get the skin dirty. They could lie in 2 inch of crap and one blow of the clippers would make them spotless just before there cut open.
Couldn’t agree more !
No point in clipping at home and if we do we make a rod for our own backs and I have some dirty hoggs. As sellers we should resist the move to clip everything at home, once clipped if they lye in a dirty pen at market or on a lorry over which you have no control then your lambs are potentially contaminated, leave the wool on and clip immediately before the knife cuts. I don’t send any but they tell me Farmfresh prefer to belly clip on the line and ensure a clean cut.
 

Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I can imagine clipping bellies when their hung up would be far easier/quicker BUT it’s another job that the slaughterhouse would have to get skilled staff to do? It would save a lot of on farm/market hassle though if they did them regardless at slaughter
Heaven forbid the slaughterhouses should actually have to do some work for their money.

I clip mine if they are really dirty, but I don't run them on roots so usually fine/ I can't be bothered, probably wouldn't make much difference to prices this year, but when the price is down you might get an extra quid live. 🤷‍♂️
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Heaven forbid the slaughterhouses should actually have to do some work for their money.

I clip mine if they are really dirty, but I don't run them on roots so usually fine/ I can't be bothered, probably wouldn't make much difference to prices this year, but when the price is down you might get an extra quid live. 🤷‍♂️
Before Christmas we were drawing off heavy clay farms and the lambs were disgusting. Absolutely covered underneath in sh!t. They weren’t saleable unclipped they looked that bad. So I had too do them.
As you say on a bad year my fully pre-clipped lambs have been up too £5 more than Corresponding unclipped so it’s payed me too clip.

Still hate the job!
 

Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Before Christmas we were drawing off heavy clay farms and the lambs were disgusting. Absolutely covered underneath in sh!t. They weren’t saleable unclipped they looked that bad. So I had too do them.
As you say on a bad year my fully pre-clipped lambs have been up too £5 more than Corresponding unclipped so it’s payed me too clip.

Still hate the job!
You mean you don't enjoy wrestling with muddy wet lambs that haven't seen a pen for 3 months?

No me neither
 

Anymulewilldo

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
You mean you don't enjoy wrestling with muddy wet lambs that haven't seen a pen for 3 months?

No me neither
One of my mates really likes bellying lambs. 🤔

Always thought he was bloody weird!!

Having said that they only finish their own 400 lambs altogether. On a good day we would belly 300. Bit of a difference too just doing a trailer full too a small artic load!
 

casper74

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
1) ask nicely
2) pretend he didn’t hear first reply, ask nicely again
3) blatantly ignore both first responses and suggest it would be silly not to come for a look
4) try plucking the heartstrings that he doesn’t want too be left in thee on his own and needs the help
5) ask nicely again
6) offer too buy you a brew if you come into the store lamb ring
7) “Right, that’s grand, I’ll start in a few minutes so get yourself a good spot” walk off quickly before the reply can be formulated.

He has been known too ring up 4 times for 1 sale trying steps 1-6!! Got too smile about it! 😂😂
Were you hiding around the corner listening??
 

Northern territory

Member
Livestock Farmer
my point wasn’t about not doing them it was that markets and abattoirs usually run the service and charge you. It seemed they wanted them doing on farm before you send them.
 

jackstor

Member
Location
Carlisle
We don’t belly clip anything but they are sold from inside. If the buyers want them clipped they’re clipped after they’re sold at our expense. Over the season I’d think at most a third of them will be clipped.
Personally, I don’t think the auction companies should’ve started belly clipping, it’s just another cost that’s easily passed on to the farmer.
 

Full of bull(s)

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
We don’t belly clip anything but they are sold from inside. If the buyers want them clipped they’re clipped after they’re sold at our expense. Over the season I’d think at most a third of them will be clipped.
Personally, I don’t think the auction companies should’ve started belly clipping, it’s just another cost that’s easily passed on to the farmer.
I’m no shepherd having no sheep but if you sold them through the stores there would be no clipping, by the time you saved the clipping fee and the levies, insurance etc. extra stoppages would you be any worse off?
 

Full of bull(s)

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
I’m no shepherd having no sheep but if you sold them through the stores there would be no clipping, by the time you saved the clipping fee and the levies, insurance etc. extra stoppages would you be any worse off?
I wonder if the big dealers who would buy them to send them straight in would have to clip them? If so at least they’d be having to do something for their living
 

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