Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Northern territory]

I sent some probably over fat really bad lambers which lost lambs or had bad bags texel suffolks and mules 10 days ago, Texels did £120-140, suffolks did £100-120 and mules did £90

Mine won’t be as well fleshed as that. Probably £80-£110 then

 

[LAMBCHOPS]

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That will work well for cobalt deficiency but what about selenium?
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Don't seem to be an issue here so much due to the way we graze and farm the Land as I said all land and systems effect trace elements/mineral availability differently

 

[livestock 1]

[QUOTE="sheepwise,
That will work well for cobalt deficiency but what about selenium?

Don't seem to be an issue here so much due to the way we graze and farm the Land as I said all land and systems effect trace elements/mineral availability differently
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Selinium is short here. Not aware of any grazing system that could alter it. All cattle that are growing must have a Selinium supplement of some sort during the grazing season at least.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Does geography not play a big part in this?
Before everyone gets their handbags out!

Yes it does! Remind us where it is you are again...

 

[Anymulewilldo]

You do well not to see depreciation in those things

Just wait until he goes for this years! £130-£165 stand on...

 

[Hilly]

Some folk talk about mineral heaps locking it all up but I don’t know
We are on bolusing cattle and sheep now plus minerals the rest of the time

Too much mag in the soil locks it up and acidic soil locks it up , they blame the mag on years of mag lime bu that’s ball cocks hell of lot of land is very high in mag naturally, no matter still need calcium lime to bring it down but it’s an expensive hobby .

 

[livestock 1]

Too much mag in the soil locks it up and acidic soil locks it up , they blame the mag on years of mag lime bu that’s ball cocks hell of lot of land is very high in mag naturally, no matter still need calcium lime to bring it down but it’s an expensive hobby .

We are advised of agronomist to put calcium lime on here and we do use it.
Mag seems to do a better job of land though by far. Personally I think Calcium lime is shyte. Quarry next door

 

[Hilly]

We are advised of agronomist to put calcium lime on here and we do use it.
Mag seems to do a better job of land though by far. Personally I think Calcium lime is shyte. Quarry next door

I don’t think it will matter mag is high most places the ph is more important but the boffins will want calcium lime used

 

[livestock 1]

I don’t think it will matter mag is high most places the ph is more important but the boffins will want calcium lime used

Yes that’s about right. Next lot I’ve priced for is mag lime against what the boys have said. Mag is a lot softer the limestone dust from the quarry next door takes time to work

 

[Hilly]

Yes that’s about right. Next lot I’ve priced for is mag lime against what the boys have said. Mag is a lot softer the limestone dust from the quarry next door takes time to work

I got calcium from Thompson’s , it rough stuff spilt in gate ways takes years to break down , but I kind of like that constant dribble of good ness .

 

[Hilly]

I think ph is just the start , I’ve a friend been studying soil all his life he says lots no one knows about soil still , he always likes to see my anylasis and sometimes has a chuckle at what sales men recommend.

 

[livestock 1]

I got calcium from Thompson’s , it rough stuff spilt in hate ways takes years to break down , but I kind of like that constant dribble of good ness .

Do you deal with Stephen?? He’s a character! They used to shift a lot of screenings up here but not so much now

 

[Hilly]

Do you deal with Stephen?? He’s a character! They used to shift a lot of screenings up here but not so much now

No I go through a local spreading contractor , he’s done my lime for years and is a friend so can’t really go past him , he’s one of the few left with land drive that suits farm like mine , these boys with dragg spreaders just for girls land

 

[livestock 1]

No I go through a local spreading contractor , he’s done my lime for years and is a friend so can’t really go past him , he’s one of the few left with land drive that suits farm like mine , these boys with dragg spreaders just for girls land

Ontop?

 

[Hilly]

Ontop?

No fiat 110 90 with land drive spreader, perfect machine for here .

 

[Bossfarmer]

I quite like winter barley. Spreads drilling, harvest workload. Have plenty fertility from grass/muck so not huge fert costs. Don't have hassle of malting.

hammer it with muck before ploughing? what sort of yield difference do you find between spring and winter barley? we struggled to pass for malting last year with sb

 

[LAMBCHOPS]

I think ph is just the start , I’ve a friend been studying soil all his life he says lots no one knows about soil still , he always likes to see my anylasis and sometimes has a chuckle at what sales men recommend.

It's a science and there is much damage being done to soil structure now with modern heavy machines. That's why the Clifton Park System Circa 1900? is such a good read. The guy who wrote it was a coffee planter from Scotland who noticed the poor crops after several years of his trees. The natives had panned the ground around the trees when picking the crop year on year. He came back to Scotland and experimented on his large estate with remarkable findings re crops rotation deep rooting especially/trace elements. Apol S for off topic but if you ain't growing the crop and getting best nutrients naturally you ain't getting the financial benefit for your livestock.

 

[Treg]

I think ph is just the start , I’ve a friend been studying soil all his life he says lots no one knows about soil still , he always likes to see my anylasis and sometimes has a chuckle at what sales men recommend.

The latest recommendations are 10 -15 kgs / acre for lime Not tonnes/ acres , the reason being heavy rates can damage your soil biology, low rates help the soil biology and THEY balance your soil.

 

[livestock 1]

The latest recommendations are 10 -15 kgs / acre for lime Not tonnes/ acres , the reason being heavy rates can damage your soil biology, low rates help the soil biology and THEY balance your soil.

That won’t have enough neutralising value

 

[Treg]

That won’t have enough neutralising value

No your stimulating the soil biology, they do the neutralising.
Spreading 1 ton of lime is 1950s farming, the soil web was discovered in the 1980s so why do farmerrs still put on 1 ton of lime?
The modern soil scientists do not recommend high levels of lime , it's taking time to filter down to farmer level because most people want to sell us stuff.